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shaner
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what junk

What a line of crap. Where does it end? If I travel to New York on a business trip, does that mean I'll have to pay NY income tax an any money I make on that trip? Or if I do some project which a NY company buys? I mean, this is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever read.
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Scilicet
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join:2005-04-11
Aurora, CO

Re: what junk

I mean no offense to those who live there, but NYC has always been known for taxing first and solving problems later. This fellow from Tenn. will unfortunately be tied up in paperwork for years. Try working with the IRS, they may be more receptive.

jsimmons
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join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA
said by shaner:

What a line of crap. Where does it end? If I travel to New York on a business trip, does that mean I'll have to pay NY income tax an any money I make on that trip? Or if I do some project which a NY company buys? I mean, this is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever read.
Several years ago, I worked on a project that required me to spend 2.5 months working in Colorado, one month in California, and the remainder in Virginia. Strangely enough, the customer we were contracted to was in Alabama. Taxes were withheld from my paycheck for all 3 states in which I worked (even though I was living in a hotel most of the time) and I had to file 3 state tax returns. If that situation ever pops up again, I will quit. The amount of time it took to prepare and file federal and 3 state tax returns was rediculous.

Just glad I'm getting close enough to retirement that I won;t have to deal with such issues much longer.
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TheGhost
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join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL

Re: what junk

That is the way consulting works. I have done it for almost 10 years and have almost always had to file at least 2 state income tax returns. I think it varies and I may have the exact number of days incorrect (order of magnitude is right though), but basically if you do work (business trips, etc) in another state for more than 10 days, you have to file state taxes there and claim them as out-of-state taxes paid in your home state. Some states have reciprocity (ie: IL and WI), and in those cases, you only pay taxes in your home state.

It gets worse if you are on a long-term project out of state. If you work in another state for >1 year and have been reimbursed for meals, hotel, etc., those reimbursements then become taxable income. You have to stay out of the area for 22 days before you can go back to avoid this. Working in NJ across the river from NYC would not count if you lived in the midwest for example.

I am so happy to not be doing it anymore.

TheGhost
averagedude

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Re: what junk

A guy in our office was telling me about his nephew. The nephew is a AAA base ball pitcher. He has to file taxes in all the states he plays ball in. He said he files whats called an "all states tax" other wise he would be filing ten's of tax returns.

I telecommute from AZ to CA. I found it cheaper to file an "all states tax" via H&R block than to file directly for both states. Don't ask me how it works, I have no idea. H&R did the work and all I did was sign - maybe that was for federal? When dealing with multiple states I definitely recommend a tax professional.
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
If you work 100+ hours in a state during business travel you are suppose to file a return there.

I think NY is smoking crack. How in the world could they justify someone paying taxes to their state when they are never even physically in their state?

I am also curious how NY has the right to even try this case since the guy doesn't live there. Maybe he should go through his home court system and have them declare that owe's them nothing.
russotto

join:2000-10-05
West Orange, NJ
said by shaner:

What a line of crap. Where does it end? If I travel to New York on a business trip, does that mean I'll have to pay NY income tax an any money I make on that trip? Or if I do some project which a NY company buys? I mean, this is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever read.
The Philadelphia wage tax already works like that -- if you work a day in the city, you're supposed to pay the wage tax for that day. In practice I think only the pro sports teams actually do so.

herdfan
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join:2003-01-25
Hurricane, WV
said by shaner:

If I travel to New York on a business trip, does that mean I'll have to pay NY income tax an any money I make on that trip?
In theory, yes. In practice, no.

Keep in mind that professional atheletes pay state income taxes based on where they play games. So if the Dolphins from income tax free FL play the Jets, the players have to pay NJ state income tax on 1/16 of their salary.

My business is located here in WV, but I have an employee who lives in OH. I have 2 options on how to handle the state income tax. The first one is the easiest for me and that is withhold WV state income tax, but she will have to file a state return in WV and get a refund. If her refund does not come in time she will have to pay her OH income tax out of her own pocket. Or I can withhold her OH state income tax and remit it to OH, which is what I do even though it is one more set of forms each month to fill out.

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