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| | No taxation with out representation Technically, since he doesn't live in New York, he wouldn't have voting rights, etc... Thus, couldn't he argue that he was being unconstitutionally taxed because there is no one representing him (in New York since it is a state tax). | |
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| Re: No taxation with out representation I think it would make more sense if traditional commuters paid tax in all states they travel through to get to work. Why target telecommuters, who don't use any transportation resources?
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|  SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
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kudos:5 | said by navalpatel:Technically, since he doesn't live in New York, he wouldn't have voting rights, etc... Thus, couldn't he argue that he was being unconstitutionally taxed because there is no one representing him (in New York since it is a state tax). Nice try, but no way. By this logic, foreigners and felons (neither of whom can vote) who live in the state would pay no tax either.
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1 edit | Re: No taxation with out representation The rights under the Constitution are guaranteed to US Citizens which foreigners more than likely don't hold (unless naturalized). Felons are generally exempt from various protections under the constitution.
Edit: I do believe some felons can vote and that also they don't pay taxes. Lucky bastards. | |
| | | SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
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kudos:5 | Re: No taxation with out representation said by navalpatel:The rights under the Constitution are guaranteed to US Citizens which foreigners more than likely don't hold (unless naturalized). Wow, are you misinformed.
Though rights are informally described in terms of the holder of the right (citizen, the people, etc.), they are defined in terms of whose behaviors are constrained. "The government shall make no law..." restricts the actions of the government without limiting who receives the blessings of that protection.
Steve
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Stephen J. Friedl • Unix Wizard • Microsoft Security MVP • Tustin, California USA • my web site | |
| | | | | | Re: No taxation with out representation
Also, I just read the comment I made above and didn't mean it the way that it sounds. I guess I meant that since he is a Citizen, he has the right to be represented in New York. Unless New York is allowing him to vote for a representative to cordially vote for/against taxes or decreases/increases, what makes them think that they are allowed to tax him. Non-citizens are a different breed because they have to undergo naturalization in order to gain the rights under the Constitution.
Furthermore, since he can not lay his claims to a particular district for which he would vote for a representative, it is unlikely that the state would allow him to vote. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: No taxation with out representation said by navalpatel: Non-citizens are a different breed because they have to undergo naturalization in order to gain the rights under the Constitution. Those who believe that that the protections provided by the Constitution apply only to citizens really ought to take the novel step of reading the Constitution. Outside a very few narrow areas, there is no support for this notion inside the four corners of that Document.
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Stephen J. Friedl • Unix Wizard • Microsoft Security MVP • Tustin, California USA • my web site | |
| | | | | | | | Re: No taxation with out representation I was referring to extended rights such as voting. | |
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