| NY Sucks Just another piece of evidence to prove what most people in this country have known for years: New York sucks. They've been ripping off people from my state (CT) who work in NY for years with their double taxation. To quote a line from Family Guy: "And I think I speak for everybody when I say New York and everybody from there can go fornicate themselves with an iron pole." |
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flynlrPremium
join:2002-12-02
Salt Lake City, UT | here's a thought you live in cali and telecommute to say Britain. but your bits and bytes bounce off routers in several states and countries. . let the fun begin. |
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| What does Tennesee say? Ok then, say my company is in Washington State, where there is no Income tax, and my employee telecommutes from New York; I guess that that employee won't have to file any of his income derived from a Tacoma Washington Based Company?
I think that this guy should have not filed with New York, he should also tell them to F*Off and not give them any money. There is not much New York can do. I doubt Tennessee would agree with NY’s assertion and allow such a collection to proceed. I know that Washington State would make such a claim very difficult to collect. |
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| Peonage! Answer this:
Does a man or woman have a Right to be compensated for their labor?
Is something that is a Right taxable? If so how and why?
If being compensated for one’s labor is not a Right then what is it?
If you do not have a Right to be compensated for your labor then are you just a peon or slave?
An (income) tax on one’s labor is anathema to freedom and liberty; it should be stamped out, it should be fought at every possible turn. Such a tax directly goes against a man or woman’s right to work and make a living. The system in place now is a tax on your labor and hard work. The way it is now, you do not have a Right to the fruits of your labor.
Furthermore an (income) tax on one’s labor is a very much like a form of peonage which was supposedly abolished. (See 42 USC 1994) |
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tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:1 | Rather then people explaining the obvious to you, try this for your answer. Don't pay incoming tax of any kind. I'm sure your answer will be delivered by the IRS and the Federal Court system.
(just another loony who thinks the govt does not have a right to tax people) |
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| said by tcope:Rather then people explaining the obvious to you, try this for your answer. Don't pay incoming tax of any kind. I'm sure your answer will be delivered by the IRS and the Federal Court system. I was not referring to an Income Tax in itself; I was referring to a compensation for labor being taxed and considered as income. There are other ways of taxation that do not trample directly on people’s right to their work. When the income tax system was devised, compensation for labor was not considered as income, it was never was. That at the time was considered a “direct tax” which is prohibited by the U. S. Constitution. Somehow that has changed and been redefined.
Things like capital gains, the income on artificial entities would be truly valid income taxes. Other options would include a tax on consumption, commercially sold goods and services (a sales tax), and import tariffs, all indirect taxes, or user fees.
The current system is onerous at best.
said by tcope:(just another loony who thinks the govt does not have a right to tax people) Technically governments don’t have rights, they have powers, and I think that they tend to overstep their powers.
Besides it is not obvious, and you never answered the question. I asked a specific question and made a specific commentary. I never said that they did say that the government did not have the power to tax people, I intim they do not have the power to lawfully tax certain things and activities. There is a difference.
And yes, I have dealt with the IRS and the Federal Court System. A sucky part-time job and I don’t do that anymore as it was just way to disheartening.
Their biggest issue is that they so often do not even follow the law, that is the Statutes at large (USC) or the regulations (CFR); they tend to follow the (their) policy; whether it be written or not. That is if it is not in their favor... Policy is not law or regulation but they often treat it as such. A good example is Title 26 USC Sec: 6203 which states in part “… Upon request of the taxpayer, the Secretary shall furnish the taxpayer a copy of the record of the assessment… this is reiterated by CFR 26 § 301.6203–1 where it states (rephrased for simplicity) …that if the taxpayer requests an assessment, one must be provided and signed by an appropriate delegate of the Secretary of the Treasury. If you ask for one you will not get one, never. They say it is policy not to provide an assessment and will force you to pay a tax without that legal document. The courts are split on this, most have sided with the taxing agency (out of being intimidated,) some have sided with the taxpayer and ordered the tax expunged unless it was properly assessed. Under the actual law no signed assessment when one is asked for, means no legal duty to pay, in practice the agency overrides the regulation with policy. Unfortunately due to the power they yield, they can come down with basically unlimited resources on some poor sucker who has little or no means or help.
Of course we are all just cogs in the machine, aren’t we? |
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