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(topic move) Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14799004 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:44:21 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:44:21 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16756604 ZOverLord : Quick Combination test for Speed, Packet Loss, QoS, Jitter, VoIP Simulation:

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Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16664264 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:08:12 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16662005 anon : I found a solution for bridging the connection instead of using ICS. So far it works well and I haven't had a problem with my packet8. I hope this helps.

Bring up a command prompt

1. At a command prompt, type netsh bridge show adapter.
2. Locate the identification number of the NIC that is not responding.

3. If the NIC is not in Compatibility mode, you can change it manually if you type the following command, where 1 is the number of the NIC that is displayed in the first step:
netsh bridge set a 1 e

4. Run the netsh bridge show adapter command again to verify that the ForceCompatabilityMode field for the NIC is displayed as Enabled.

You may have to do this for both the wireless adapter and the nic.

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I had a Linksys WIP330 and it was so bad that I returned it to the supplier. However there is a new firmware available for it on voip-info.org . I have a UTstarcom F3000 flip phone on the way - I'll let you guys know how it works. The F3000 is referred to as a 2nd gen voip wireless phone, so i have high hopes!
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said by ilhy

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Thanks for your reply.

In option 2, could I shutdown my pc after authentication or I have to keep it running 24/7?

Thanks in advance!

This sentence from my previous response already answered that question:

quote:
Then, with a PC/laptop (temporarily) hooked up to one of the WRT54G's LAN ports...

You only need the PC/laptop hooked up whenever you need to authenticate the wifi connection. In many places, wifi connections remain authenticated so long as there's activity taking place across the connection. With the ATA sending registration requests every few minutes, that would hopefully keep the wifi connection "active" (and thus authenticated). If you're lucky, you'll only have to authenticate once.

Some wifi systems, however, require re-authentication every 24 hours regardless of wifi activity. In that the case you'll need to re-connect the PC/laptop every 24 hours to re-authenticate.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16200873 Tue, 30 May 2006 15:21:37 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16198920 ilhy : Thanks for your reply.

In option 2, could I shutdown my pc after authentication or I have to keep it running 24/7?

Thanks in advance!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16198920 Tue, 30 May 2006 10:05:44 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16197791 rizzo2dial :

said by ilhy

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How to use a ATA in a password protected(not security,have to enter userid and password) wireless network?

That depends on how you intend to connect the ATA to the wirless network in the first place.

If you go the ICS route, simply authenticate (via username/psasword) the wifi connection on the PC/laptop running ICS.

If you don't want to be tethered to a PC/laptop, use a Linksys WRT54G (or WRT54GS) router loaded w/ 3rd party firmware which supports "Client" mode wifi connections. Such connections:
1) convert the router into a Wifi bridge (on the WAN side)
2) provide a NAT'd interface on the LAN side so that multiple "devices" can share the "Client WAN" wifi connection (at least this was how my WRT54G behaved unde Sveasoft Alchemy).

Then, with a PC/laptop (temporarily) hooked up to one of the WRT54G's LAN ports and the ATA hooked up to another of the WRT54G's LAN ports, authenticate the wifi connection on the PC/laptop (using the username/password). That will authenticate the "Client WAN" side of the router to the wifi network. All devices NAT'd behind that connection (i.e. all devices on the LAN side of the WRT54G) will now share that "authenticated WAN" connection. Your ATA should be able to work thereafter. It will also hopefully keep your Wifi connection "authenticated" 24/7 as it'll presumably be sending VoIP registration requests to the VoSP every few minutes.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16197791 Tue, 30 May 2006 01:38:09 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16197161 ilhy : How to use a ATA in a password protected(not security,have to enter userid and password) wireless network?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16197161 Mon, 29 May 2006 23:11:39 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16102438 usa2k : ICS is likely providing NAT behind NAT from the wireless router. (Never used ICS - always a router.) That may not work well for all providers.

Just guessing.

Vonage used to caution against ICS because it only had an 8 minute lease time, and you could get dropped. Packet8 always encouraged ICS.

Ideally you could use an Access Point to a switch, and Vonage and SunRocket (was it?) could each pull an IP from the wireless router. Then its just one NAT occurring. That would free your computer too.
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I just got a Sunrocket Gizmo. When I hook it up the same way my vonage adapter is hooked up (using ICS) the router part of it works fine (it will pick up the internet signal and pass it on to the second computer) but the VOIP light just keeps flashing red and I get no dial tone when I plug my phone in. I tried using a crossover cable - same results. The Gizmo works fine when I go to a friend's house and use it with his cable modem - even if I put it behind his router.

Very strange - Vonage adapter works fine, Sunrocket Gizmo does not.

Any ideas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16100141 Mon, 15 May 2006 11:40:34 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16072883 NoBridge : Please comment on this discussion which is directly related to this topic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16072883 Thu, 11 May 2006 00:07:14 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15994611 informpage : Just a note to others: It can be done very easily.

I've been sharing a connection with my neighbor, we use a WRT54G and a Netgear WGE101 which has been the stablest bridge I've used. The interface is rather lame and it only does WEP, but it generally will run months without needing to be reset while connecting a good 5 computers on my end, plus VoIP and P2P apps.

With my Vonage service this set up ran virtually flawless for two years in conjunction with the Moto Box. We share a common wall so signal strength is good.

I will say, I've tested numerous other VoIP set ups with this set up and seemed to always have jitter and dropped packets, but with Vonage and the Moto box, it ran like a charm. Hope this encourages others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15994611 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:17:22 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15878544 anon : Hi guys, do I really need to have two wireless routers for this? Like one act as a bridge or repeater while the other act as a router? I'm thinking of moving to vonage myself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15878544 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:37:19 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15781706 IhateVonage : WRT54GS v2.1 w/ DD-WRT v23 final STD as AP in G-only
WRT54GS v2.1 w/ DD-WRT v23 final STD as wireless client in G-only

Connect "voip gizmo" to wireless client. Enable QoS in AP giving premium priority to "voip gizmo". Give "voip gizmo" a static address either as such or via static DHCP (reservation). tada!

Optionally explore the DD-WRT v23 VoIP firmware ;)

dd-wrt.com

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15781706 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:06:35 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15779211 bellagio : I will, my axim x30 does not have a built in wireless and it doesn't seem like I can add one. I should have looked before I posted. I'm going to have to buy another PDA that has built in wireless. If anyone wants a x30 basic or a full gps system, it's for sale in the for sale section. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15779211 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:09:52 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15774034 Yippz Voip : My Axim is a X3i with built-in wireless. I have heard that the wireless cards that plug into the SD slot in the top of the unit work just as well.

I find amazing that it works so well. Now if Vonage will just open their SIP info I'd really be rockin'. When I was in downtown Vicksburg, MS their downtown area was covered in WI-FI ZONE signs... Wish I had tested it while walking around the historic downtown area.

Post your experiences when you test it. It's just so cool!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15774034 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:44:00 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15771044 bellagio : That is awesome man. I can't wait to try it out. The axim I have does not have built in wireless however so I have to either get a wireless card for it or sell this pda and get a pda with built in wireless.

Does your PDA have built in wireless? Do you recommend any wireless cards for PDAs?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15771044 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:35:32 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15770687 Yippz Voip :

said by bellagio

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Your Axim setup is pretty sweet. And you are saying that the quality is very good? What do you use for a headphone or headset? Or do you just use the microphone from the PDA and just any speakers?

Thanks... Just used it from a 2 hotels, in 2 different towns in Mississippi. Since 99% of the places I passed all offer free hi-speed wireless internet this will work pretty much everywhere. In the first place I got about a 57% signal from the room -- the second place had 6 access points around the hotel so I got 100% from everywhere except the elevator, where I got 88%. Pretty nice to walk around the hotel on the VOIP phone without dropping a call... Bye bye cell!!

Using the stereo headphones I use for MP3 play (Sony) I get to hear the call in clear stereo (amazing how much you really hear!!) The Axim I have doesn't allow for a headset mic so I hold the Axim or place it on a table when speaking. Callers say the quality is so life-like that both people I spoke with compared it to ''being on an extension in the same house''.

With both hotels the calls never dropped (total call time for both days was over 2 hours) and the battery on the Axim went down to around 70% both days at maximum processor speed (400 mhz).

Bottom line -- can't beat a free US-CAN phone from anywhere in the world... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15770687 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:50:09 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765320 bellagio : Your Axim setup is pretty sweet. And you are saying that the quality is very good? What do you use for a headphone or headset? Or do you just use the microphone from the PDA and just any speakers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765320 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:14:28 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15749071 markosjal :

quote:
My situation: I live in an R-V park that has a wi-fi antenna (access point) atop the central laundry room roof. I use an Orinoco USB Client to pick up the signal, which connects to a USB port on my XP computer. ICS is enabled. Then, I use a crossover cable to connect from the NIC card to a Packet8 phone adapter, and the phone adapter connects to the phone.

I have tried, at first, a Uniden 2.4 gig cordless phone, but that evidently causes problems because the wi-fi operates at the same 2.4. So, I have gone to a standard corded old-style telephone. (Didn't seem to make any difference at all.)

Voice quality is excellent, but I have audio problems. After talking to another person on the phone for about 10 minutes, I suddenly cannot hear them - yet they can hear me. Packet8, of course, feels that this is because the wi-fi provider may be using 3rd party firmware with its router. No one has a viable solution to this. Other than that, it works reasonably well.

Any suggestions?

It would be better to attempt to Bridging the two connections rather than using ICS.

ICS has an odd 'feature' in that it changes the IP addresses of everything connected to the LAN side as frequently as every few Minutes. you can try giving the adapter a fixed IP address first. Guess what happens if you are in a call and ICS reassigns a new IP address.

If double NAT does turn out to be the issue, disable ICS and try Bridgeing the connections, but only AFTER putting the adapter back to DHCP mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15749071 Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:32:09 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15683189 Yippz Voip :

said by dzr

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To add to the list of possibilities:

PocketPC with SIP software, such as SJPhone.

While you may quibble that SIP Software was already mentioned, using a PocketPC is much more portable than a PC. Also, the average reader may not realize that SIP software exists for the PocketPC - so, I'm explicitly mentioning it.

I do exactly that. I've got an Axim X3i and using SJPhone and VBuzzer »www.vbuzzer.com I get a free 416 (Toronto,ON) number with unlimited outgoing calls to 416 (My Vonage line has a virtual 416 on it) so I can call friends and family in Toronto as well as my Vonage line in Atlanta from any WI-FI location, such as my local coffee house. The Axim weighs literally nothing and fits in a pocket or on a belt clip. For incoming, I have my Vonage line set to Simul-ring which includes the VBuzzer 416 number, so if my Axim is online I can receive calls as well. -- Total cost for mobility >> $0.00

Sounds is as clear as speaking into a digital recorder and using my stereo headphones, I can hear absolutely everying from the person I'm speaking to crystal clear.

According to another thread, Vonage announced they're going to give out their SIP info so we can use SJPhone with Vonage without having to get a Softphone account, which according to Vonage they're doing away with.
Link to thread >> »[Vonage] Vonage Opening It's SIP Credentials?

Just wanted to let other Axim or HP PPC users in on the mobility details... Enjoy :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15683189 Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:15:35 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15660426 stufried : Many VPN programs create a network connection in XP in the "my connections folder." I have been able to share the VPN connection with my notebook's RJ45 connection and connect up to an ATA with a crossover cable. If you are just spending a couple of days at the hotel, you might want to look at Skype. Whatever problems Skype has, it goes through most firewalls without incident.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15660426 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:22:27 EDT Internet Connection Sharing via Mac OS X http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15657561 OS_X_Tiger : For those that take their iMacs, iBooks, MacBook Pros, PowerBooks, or Minis on vacation with them and connect via their AirPort:

1. Go to System Preferences (the white thing with the Apple logo on the dock, usually next to your calendar which is iCal).

2. Click Sharing.

3. Click the Internet tab.

4. Change "share your connection from" (set to built-in ethernet) to AirPort.

5. Set "to computers using" to include built-in ethernet.

6. Click the Start button.

7. Click Apply Now.

8. Connect a CROSSOVER CABLE (this is important, you can NOT use a regular cable with this!) to your VoIP adapter. Power it on and it should connect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15657561 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:09:27 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15447461 Zhariak : Ok So i got vonage, i have my adapter hacked so I can either use my ATA adapter, or i can use my credentials and log into their SIP server using a SoftPhone (I use SJphone)...

Here's what i have... First I had 2 Linksys WRT54GS's setup in WDS mesh mode, using sveasoft firmware... Latency sucked dink...

Generally using just my laptop, connecting to my AP, using a softphone it would work fine... So if u have it setup right, i think VoIP is totally fine over Wifi...

Then i procedded to settup up one of my APs as an AP, and the other as a client, setup with a different subnet, and setup static routing... tried the softphone, worked great. added about 2ms of latency to the trip over the intarweb to vonage's proxies...

Now since I had 2 networks (different subnets) connected via wifi, i decided to hook up my ATA adapter to my wireless wired network (contacts internet via other AP). Bam, it worked fine....

Donno if this helps, thought id post my experience...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15447461 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:41:03 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15353554 ejrobinson : You do realize that this 'sharing' is theft of service, don't you?

-er]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15353554 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:51:39 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15352173 raderator :

said by dajabon

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Why would you want to use a wireless connection with VoIP?
1. You may be sharing your home Internet connection with a neighbor

I'm thinking of doing this. My country neighbor (very decent guy) is about 150ft across the road. My own lousy wireless routers (at our main house) crap out over 50 ft but I can connect great to a Linksys router at the local park which is over 600 ft away so I know it can be done.

So I buy him a Linksys and we split the $40 for DSL, I set up my checking account to mail him a $20 check each month. Then I connect a VOIP adapter to my computer and enable ICS. The computer will be off when I'm not here but that's OK cuz calls will go to VM.

This will cost me zero cuz now I pay:

$28 for phone service with call waiting (pretty good)
$5 for dialup (very good)

TOTAL $33

So if I do the neighbor thing I'll get (naked) DSL and it will cost me:

$20 to the neighbor

$13 for VOIP.net 500 outgoing mins/month

TOTAL $33

It'll be less reliable but I'm not here most of the time and have a cell phone. And assuming the router has good range, I'll have wireless for my laptop (actually, I do now with my dialup but that's another story).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15352173 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:44:35 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15321882 Zeico : Interesting. I followed the link on the P8 page that gave instructions on how to manually upgrade the firmware. It said to dial 012-0003 to get the adapter's address, and the connection went through. 192.168.0.42. I unplugged the 410 and plugged it back in. This time I got the address as 192.168.0.153. Is this address change relevant?
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15321882 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:28:08 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15321764 Zeico : Sorry. I am a newbie. What is a NAT, and what is a transversal?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15321764 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:16:03 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15320878 hwittenb :

said by Zeico

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I have audio problems. After talking to another person on the phone for about 10 minutes, I suddenly cannot hear them - yet they can hear me

Sounds like you are having a NAT transversal problem since your adapter is working behind a double NAT. I would search this and other forums for NAT transversal to get ideas to try.

Here is a thread to start with
»[Packet8] NAT Transversal?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15320878 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:24:59 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15311987 Zeico : My situation: I live in an R-V park that has a wi-fi antenna (access point) atop the central laundry room roof. I use an Orinoco USB Client to pick up the signal, which connects to a USB port on my XP computer. ICS is enabled. Then, I use a crossover cable to connect from the NIC card to a Packet8 phone adapter, and the phone adapter connects to the phone.

I have tried, at first, a Uniden 2.4 gig cordless phone, but that evidently causes problems because the wi-fi operates at the same 2.4. So, I have gone to a standard corded old-style telephone. (Didn't seem to make any difference at all.)

Voice quality is excellent, but I have audio problems. After talking to another person on the phone for about 10 minutes, I suddenly cannot hear them - yet they can hear me. Packet8, of course, feels that this is because the wi-fi provider may be using 3rd party firmware with its router. No one has a viable solution to this. Other than that, it works reasonably well.

Any suggestions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15311987 Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:15:55 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15144415 anon : Is there a similarly priced (the WBP54G is only $38 through the actual Amazon store, not some unknown third-party seller) wireless bridge or wireless adapter that is compatible with the RTP300? The rtp300 is not listed in the product manual as supported, but I do not see why it would not work with any ethernet card on any device as long as you supply the correct power cord (5V/2A DC)... Anyone tried this before?

I haven't checked my RTP300 yet to see what kind of power adapter it uses, but if I'm lucky it will be the right kind (I have a feeling that all those products listed by Linksys use the same adapter, so why not the RTP300). I'll post again tomorrow after I check my RTP's power supply.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15144415 Sun, 01 Jan 2006 07:13:31 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012891 ptrowski :

said by hwittenb

said by ptrowski

:

I tried to find a WBP54G retail but no one seemed to carry it.

You can get it on the internet at a number of places ... store.voxilla.com, amazon.com, www.buy.com, others. See froogle.google.com

I found that, but by the time I figured out I needed it I couldn't wait the 3-5 days to actually have it arrive. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012891 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:11:30 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012561 hwittenb :

said by ptrowski

:

I tried to find a WBP54G retail but no one seemed to carry it.

You can get it on the internet at a number of places ... store.voxilla.com, amazon.com, www.buy.com, others. See froogle.google.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012561 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:26:52 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012490 ptrowski : I tried to find a WBP54G retail but no one seemed to carry it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15012490 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:15:13 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15011267 hwittenb :

said by claudeo

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Dead link

It works. Click on "Click here to download file"

linksys wbp5···uide.zip 3,099,748 bytes
(linksys wbp54g user guide.pdf)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15011267 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:24:49 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15002399 ptrowski : It is an EZ-Air 11b bridge from StayOnline, but any one should work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15002399 Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:49:10 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14992588 claudeo :

said by ptrowski

:

Actually, I called when the person there didnt have a clue as it turned out. They do gave wireless bridges, and now it is set up like bridge->wrt54g running hyperwrt->RTP300->Uniden TRU8866 and works like a champ

What brand/model of wireless bridge?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14992588 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:25:45 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14992576 claudeo :

said by hwittenb

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If you have a PAP2 or Sipura adapter, Linksys makes a small wireless bridge that doesn't require an additional power supply (it uses the adapter's) called the wbp54g. Linksys doesn't have a link to it on their website but here is a link to the user's guide that comes with the unit
»z28.zupload.com/download.php?fil···ath=9514

Dead link]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14992576 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:24:00 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14887620 ptrowski : Actually, I called when the person there didnt have a clue as it turned out. They do gave wireless bridges, and now it is set up like bridge->wrt54g running hyperwrt->RTP300->Uniden TRU8866 and works like a champ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14887620 Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:06:45 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14883269 powerpig : Not sure if this will help or not, but I spend a lot of time on the road and was using a USB phone with VOIPBuster since the hotel I stay at 20 days a month happened to be in a Verizon dead zone. Worked great, but I was tethered to the laptop whenever I wanted to make a call. I just recently bought a ZyXEL wirless VOIP phone and it works great! Also, I travel through a lot of airports and many have free wireless and the phone works great in those areas also. The only downside is that the phone has around a three hour battery life but can be charged with a USB cable. It really works well and is totally unlocked so you can configure to any SIP compatible network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14883269 Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:12:40 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852939 ptrowski : They don't. I just called down to ask..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852939 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:34:04 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852858 rizzo2dial : Ask at the front desk of your hotel if they have Wifi Bridges available for guest use. Many hotels offer them free of charge to USE but charge a hefy deposit (of perhaps around $100) to make sure they get their equipment back.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852858 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:20:40 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852680 ptrowski : The hotel only offers wireless HSI so I have to be...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852680 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:52:49 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852652 hwittenb : Can you just use ethernet to cable your pc to the RTP300 router?

If you need to be wireless because of distance you need to cable an access point to the RTP300 router. Access points are sold by Linksys, Netgear, DLink, etc. If your pc's internal wireless card is unstable you would need to buy a cardbus card or attach a usb wireless adapter. Most all products would work.

An alternative would be to to use your electricity wires to carry the signal using a pair of Netgear, Linksys, or other company "homeplug" products and cable your pc to the adapter using ethernet. I have used Netgear's product for this purpose.

Here is a list of manufacturers of "homeplug" products: »www.homeplug.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852652 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:48:20 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852337 ptrowski : I have been using ICS for about a week and it seems to be working well, except when I am on my Vonage phone and doing some some searching on the internet, and noticed it gets choppy...

Any wireless bridges/other solutions you all could recommend? I currently have a PC with a wireless card in it but the antenna was damaged during shipping from FL, and is unstable...I need to have my pc and my RTP300 both connected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14852337 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:02:47 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14845861 hwittenb : If you have a PAP2 or Sipura adapter, Linksys makes a small wireless bridge that doesn't require an additional power supply (it uses the adapter's) called the wbp54g. Linksys doesn't have a link to it on their website but here is a link to the user's guide that comes with the unit
»z28.zupload.com/download.php?fil···ath=9514]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14845861 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:01:31 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14845721 markosjal : About two years ago, I was running a Grandstream Budgettone on from what I recall was an SMC 2730 wireless to ethernet bridge. The bridge was mounted on the side of a coffee can with the rubber cover of the built in rubber duckie antnna removed and stuck inside a carefully calculated hole placed in the side of the coffee can.

I connected flawlessly to the Wireless access point about 1/4 of a mile away, at a friend's house. The biggest problem I had was the faulty Dlink router/Access point that always had to be reset.

I later used the same set up on a Linksys Wireless access point with no problems whatsoever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14845721 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:36:53 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14832161 ptrowski : Update for me..I am staying at a Residence Inn up in RI. What I did is use my wireless card to get on the internet, then used ICS to share the connection with the NIC card...The only thing to remember is to use a CROSSOVER cable going from the NIC card to the VOIP device (in my case a Vonage RTP300)
Works very well...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14832161 Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:46:07 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14825267 Tubisten : Nat32 is excellent. I'm not currently using it, but I used it for years, on Windows 95, 98 and 2000. If he didn't change it the unregistered version works for 1 hour and then exits itself. All features work for that 1 hour.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14825267 Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:11:53 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14821204 dzr : To add to the list of possibilities:

PocketPC with SIP software, such as SJPhone.

While you may quibble that SIP Software was already mentioned, using a PocketPC is much more portable than a PC. Also, the average reader may not realize that SIP software exists for the PocketPC - so, I'm explicitly mentioning it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14821204 Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:21:45 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14812328 rizzo2dial :

said by alchemista2

:

Are there any 3rd party connection sharing tools that do the same as ICS but allow you to change the IP?

»www.nat32.com/

I believe it has a free trial (perhaps 30 days). Costs $25 to register, and based on its feature set, looks well worth the money.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14812328 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:43:55 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14811090 alchemista2 : Does ethernet bridging work at all? I have a P8 DTA. I connected it with a crossover cable to my ethernet port on my laptop. The link light comes on the DTA.

I also have a wireless connection that is working on the laptop. That's what I want to attach the DTA to. I then bridge the wireless connection and LAN connection. The DTA then pulls an IP, but when I pick up the phone it's a fast busy signal. I have a feeling that the bridge isn't working properly.

I'd do the Internet Connection Sharing, but stupid Windows forces you to do 192.168.0.1, and I'm stuck with a router at 192.168.0.1.

Why is there no way to override the ICS setting? Are there any 3rd party connection sharing tools that do the same as ICS but allow you to change the IP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14811090 Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:00:32 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connecti http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14784765 fortissimo : If I understand correctly, ICS is a form of NAT routing, and will have similar NAT related issues. However, I've never looked into the details. I also am not sure about the ICS performance, if the computer is busy.

I'd say a wireless bridge, or a wireless AP will be a better solution. Many wireless AP can act as DHCP client on either side (I used to own 2 Netgear MA102 that do) (via config).

The problem is that if the connection is already via one NAT, and you add another NAT, then the combined of 2 NAT might stop some NAT traversal solutions. And even if it doesn't, removing one layer is still better. Plus it's good to not to have the laptop on at all times for that (so it can be more useful when indepedent).

Linksys mini router, WRT54GC, has received horrible reviews, is not the same inside as WRT54G, cannot be flashed with 3rd party firmware, and is not known to work in bridge mode (this I'm not sure). I bought one and returned it, before I even opened the package, after reading the reviews. Like the poster, I also thought it was a mini version of WRT54G, and was I wrong.

Some hotels charge a substantial fee for internet connection, so unless you already need internet, this might not be economically justifable for merely a Long Distance substitute. Typical large hotel chains I found, charge about US$10. to US$20. per 24 hours. (some for free, of course, if you know which ones).

Another issue is security: if the wireless side is unencrypted, and your SIP provider is also not encrypted, then it is possible to sniff the traffic wirelessly. This might not be important for most people, but I just like to mention it, as SIP by default is open traffic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14784765 Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:07:47 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770094 dajabon : Rizzo,

Great advice, I would have never thought to ask. Unfortunately, I'm in a Tokyo apartment where I'm expected to supply my own wireless adapter. No worries though. Your ICS suggestion is working flawlessly.

Thanks,
Dajabon]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770094 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:06:31 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769842 rizzo2dial : Hotels which offer "Wireless Only" high speed internet access sometimes have Wifi bridges available for guests.

In my experience, the use of the Wifi bridge is free; however, you need to leave a hefty deposit (tyically $100) to borrow one. When you check out, if you return the bridge, you get your deposit back.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769842 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:36:09 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14768979 ptrowski : Dajabon,
This will be extremely helpful for me as I am staying at a Marriott Residence Inn for three weeks and they advertise High Speed Wireless Connections and need my Vonage adapter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14768979 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:41:42 EDT Re: Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14768882 dajabon : This topic was very important to me. I knew when I traveled that a wireless connection was probably all tha tI would have available to me. The original post was based on my research with little to no experience. Now I have some experience.

Wireless Ethernet Bridge Method:
I brought a Netgear WGPS606 to behave as a Wireless Ethernet Bridge. However late I discovered that it seems to require a fixed local IP address and doesn't want to work with the wireless network here. What a waste of time and money. It worked great from home. When I could get it on the network it worked like a charm.

So I went with rizzo2dial's ICS suggestion. In testing at home this worked great once I could change my home router's IP address scheme from 168.192.0.x. Without making this change Windows will give you an immediate error and say something about the IP address is already taken. So this method concerned me as a Plan A option because I knew I would not be able to change a business' wireless router's addressing scheme during my travels. However, I caught a break, they use a Buffalo 54G Wireless Router and it defaults to 168.192.11.x. :-)

So here is what works for me now...
Internet Connection Sharing from a Pentium 3 700 mhz laptop with a wireless b adapter is what provides a bridged connection to Nuvio's Linksys RT31P2 router with VoIP. I hibernate the laptop and turn off the router/ATA adapter at night and in the morning I turn the whole thing one and it all just connects up automatically without any concerns about what powers up first. The voice is great, occasionally I can hear a split second light echo of myself but it is rare and easily ignorable. The wireless b connection and physical distance (Japan) justifies this very small imperfection.

I am happy with my setup and impressed that it works so well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14768882 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:29:37 EDT Tips for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14515239 dajabon : Ok this may not be quite a "FAQ for Running VoIP from a Wireless Connection", but it does

collect the answers to my own frequently asked questions on the topic. I must state

up-front that none of this information comes from me. I am also sure that I have missed a lot. Hopefully all of you can help fill the gaps. The content below is only the result of my research into postings of other forum members. So thanks to my predecessors and thanks to those who blessed us all with their pearls of wisdom.

Why would you want to use a wireless connection with VoIP?
1. You may be sharing your home Internet connection with a neighbor
2. A wiring constraint in the space where you want to put the VoIP ATA adapter
3. You want to take advantage of a wireless hotspot with your VoIP
4. Your hotel only has a wireless connection available
5. You just want to prove you can do it
6. You have nothing better or more interesting to do with your time
7. You want to get your geek fix for the day
...

So far I am aware of the following ways to run VoIP from a wireless Internet connection:
1. Use an Ethernet Wireless Bridge
2. Use Windows Internet Connection Sharing from a computer with a wireless adapter
3. Use an altered Wireless Router
4. Use a softphone (VoIP software)
5. Use a wireless VoIP Phone

Here are some general notes about wireless connections and VoIP:

said by stevech1

:

wireless LAN is transparent to VoIP. The only issues are those common to any wireless LAN setup: choosing an uncongested channel (1, 6, 11) and assuring you have a good signal so that a reasonably high data rate is achieved.

said by gnexus

:

The quality will likely be rather variable, but it will certainly work ok. It's the same quality issue deal as with cell phones. The only issue is firewall traversion. You should set the SPA for a worst case firewall situation using STUN, even if you don't need it for your home network. If it works good like that at home then no setting changes on the road would be neccessary. If use of STUN creates problems on your network then you would have to disable it and then reenable it for travel. Normally STUN is used w/o probs.

Through quotes from other forum members I will try and explain each option.

1. Use an Ethernet Wireless Bridge

said by rizzo2dial

:

I've never had any success in bridging wireless and ethernet network adapters, but I've been 100% successful in using ICS to connect my P8 DTA to my laptop's ethernet connection w/ the laptop's wireless connection ICS enabled.

said by prestonlewis

:

I've used a wireless connection from a router to a bridge and connected a SIP device to the bridge without any problems.

2. Use Windows Internet Connection Sharing from a computer with a wireless adapter

said by rizzo2dial

:

1) Use a crossover cable to connect your P8 DTA directly to your notebook's ethernet port.

2) Turn on Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on your Wireless Network Interface.

Note: ICS enables a DHCP server on your notebook, where the DHCP server uses the internal IP address of 192.168.0.1. It DHCP assigns IP addresses using the scheme 192.168.0.x (where x > 1). If your wireless connection is hooked up to a router using the same 192.168.0.x addressing scheme, you'll need to change your router to another addressing scheme (i.e. 192.168.1.x).

3) After step 2 has been successfully completed, your DTA should receive a DHCP assigned IP address from your notebook and be able to share your notebook's wireless network connection (i.e. you should have a dialtone at this point).

said by rizzo2dial

:

If you don't have a CROSSOVER cable, and if you have a spare hub or switch laying around, you can simulate what a CROSSOVER cable would do by:
a) Connecting the laptop's LAN port to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
b) Connecting the P8 DTA to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
(Neither connection above should go into the switch/hub's "uplink" port)
c) Don't plug any other ethernet cables into any other ports of the switch/hub!

3. Use an altered Wireless Router

said by rizzo2dial

:

If you travel w/ a router such as a WRT54G (w/ 3rd party firmware installed, such as SVEASOFT Alchemy), you can use that router as a wireless bridge, regular router, or simple ethernet switch. Linksys makes a travel sized 54G router too which may use the same firmware as the WRT54G; however, I've never reasearched it.

4. Use a softphone (VoIP software)

said by burgerwars

:

I prefer a wireless connection, even in my house. The access point is usually in the same room as my laptop. So very close. I plan on using the softphone mainly outside my house anyway, as I could just use my TA in my home. wireless may be the only choice when I'm away.

said by gnexus

:

Occasionally you might run into a network where even STUN doesn't work. It is doubtful a hotel network would be that way, but in that case the Sipura won't work. The only solution then would be a softphone which uses X-tunnels or a similar solution, or Skype. Your best solution would be to change hotels immediately and let us know here so we can avoid that hotel chain. Good luck!

5. Use a wireless VoIP Phone
These products seem to be just entering the VoIP market. This is still bleeding edge in my opinion, but maybe it is starting to become more common.

My own notes:
> Internet Connection Sharing seems to be the one solution that people have the most success with.
> VoIP Providers that allow softphones are generally only the the Bring Your Own Device providers. Read these two topics »VoIP service with hardphone, softphone & Voicemail and »Up-to-date list of providers that have BYOD ?

Referenced forum topics:
»Which hotels/other places can you plug a TA into?
»[General] VOIP over Wireless LAN?
»anyone tried VOIP in hotspots?
»Re: Anyone ever try 802.11 to another phone adapte]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14515239 Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:49:56 EDT