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join:2000-10-28 | Pretty Good Article
He provides a small nod to what he calls the "culture war" surrounding Sveasoft's abusive tactics and goes into some detail on the subject of firmware mods as a whole.
Not bad. (But no HyperWRT?)
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| HyperWRT itself is basically dead (it hasn't been updated in a while).
That said a number of developers have branched off the HyperWRT code. I myself prefer the Tofu build which adds static DHCP, WDS and bridge mode without adding all the bloat that is in the Sveasoft firmware. It also adds some extra statistics and fixes some bugs in the Linksys firmware.
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join:2000-10-28 | Thanks, Morac  ! Does the relative bloat of Sveasoft (and I presume DD-WRT) affect the performance of the router, or does it merely reduce available RAM for logs and such?
I am heartened to hear that HyperWRT is still being extended; I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds.
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1 edit | I've never tried the Sveasoft (or DD-WRT) software mainly because I don't need all those extra features. Also I have the original WRT54G v1.0 which doesn't have as much memory and processing power as the newer versions so I like to keep the installed firmware as streamlined as possible for better performance
The newer models might be better at handling the extra features, but every extra feature added requires more processing power and/or memory. Processing power and memory that might be needed during heavy usage.
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join:2000-10-28 |
Oh fooey -- Cisco blows chunks.
Per the other comments in this news thread, Linksys has CLOSED THE SOURCE and reduced the memory in currently available WRT54G models.
That makes the entire linked article (mostly) pointless, and factually wrong:
So the Linksys WRT54G can be loaded with replacement firmware with exciting new features. No, no it can't. Not for anybody picking one up today (in all likelihood). We're reduced to serial number checks now?? This is like trying to find a good overclockable processor. Cisco sucks eggs.
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 koitsuPremium,MVM
join:2002-07-16
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kudos:14 | Present WRT54G models in the US are running VxWorks -- there is a debate over whether or not they can run a Linux-based OS or not. Depends on who you ask...
However, one thing is for sure: the WRT54GL, which is presently only available in Europe, is Linksys's latest Linux-specific model.
All one can do is hope that it's brought to the States.
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 DaDogsSemper VigilantisPremium
join:2004-02-28
Deltaville, VA | reply to B
said by B:He provides a small nod to what he calls the "culture war" surrounding Sveasoft's abusive tactics and goes into some detail on the subject of firmware mods as a whole. Not bad. (But no HyperWRT?) -- B Of course, you will NEVER cease redefining what the rest of the industry, including the FSF, recognizes as legitimate so we need to actually quote what the gentleman actually wrote to preclude misinformation and outright distortion:
Sveasoft was one of the first developers of a WRT54G firmware based on Linksys’ open source version. Many branches in the firmware family tree, including DD-WRT, are themselves based on Sveasoft’s early modification. Buffeted by the success and enthusiasm generated by their firmware offerings, Sveasoft chose to build a business model around their subsequent releases. Because of the GPL roots of the original Linksys firmware, Sveasoft cannot prevent distribution of their own modifications. As a workaround, they’ve chosen to implement a membership fee of $20 per year to access the Sveasoft “community,” wherein support and new releases are made available. Some in the open source community object to the “wall” Sveasoft has built around its free firmware, and take it upon themselves to release Sveasoft’s work into the public.
Infighting aside, Sveasoft’s older Alchemy and newer Talisman firmware are popular and widely available. BrainSlayer’s DD-WRT is free of the Sveasoft culture war, and is itself an extremely powerful and actively maintained firmware.
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join:2000-10-28 |
Oh stop it. I was applauding that the author addressed it in a fairminded way; I redefined nothing. Please be constructive. (Outright distortion?? Go away.)
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DaDogsSemper VigilantisPremium
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Deltaville, VA | reply to B
said by B:Thanks, Morac ! Does the relative bloat of Sveasoft (and I presume DD-WRT) affect the performance of the router, or does it merely reduce available RAM for logs and such? No, I have a number of WAP-54G's running Sveasoft firmware. They are WDS enabled and thereby create a small neighboorhood LAN that serves s small number of homes. I installed them in July of last year. They are installed in boxes on the outside of the houses. I have not had to reboot one or service one in any way since September of last year. Performance is excellent. I guess "relative bloat" is a "relative" term.
said by B:I am heartened to hear that HyperWRT is still being extended; I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds. -- B What? Is Sveasoft too ethical for you?  Your religion is showing...
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DaDogsSemper VigilantisPremium
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Deltaville, VA | reply to B
said by B:Oh stop it. I was applauding that the author addressed it in a fairminded way; I redefined nothing. Please be constructive. (Outright distortion?? Go away.) -- B Oh, my I must have misunderstood the slant of your comments. 
My bad, surely you would never imply that you had, "ethical" issues with Sveasoft...
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BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 |
I thought it was good that the author addressed it at all -- that was my point. He didn't come down on either side, but he gave a "small nod" to the issue, which might help explain to a new reader why there are forks in the first place. You really didn't have to reflexively and protectively quote the article.
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I am pretty sure most of the modifications sveasoft added to the linksys firmware was code written by other people, at least in the beginning. |
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 envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA | reply to koitsu
said by koitsu:Present WRT54G models in the US are running VxWorks -- there is a debate over whether or not they can run a Linux-based OS or not. Depends on who you ask... What versions are using VxWorks? I thought the entire line of WRT54G's and GS's all use a Linux base?? |
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BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Not any more. Please read through the whole article thread here. Apparently v. 5 of the hardware changed everything (half the RAM and no more GPL code).
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DaDogsSemper VigilantisPremium
join:2004-02-28
Deltaville, VA
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said by B:I thought it was good that the author addressed it at all -- that was my point. said by B:I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds. He didn't come down on either side, but he gave a "small nod" to the issue, which might help explain to a new reader why there are forks in the first place. said by B:I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds. You really didn't have to reflexively and protectively quote the article. said by B:I do prefer to stay away from the Sveasoft codebase on ethical grounds. -- B You decide what you need to do, I will decide what I need to do. Hopefully, I will be more honest with everyone else than you are being with yourself. 
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 rtcyFACTS only pleasePremium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA | I don't get this "comunist""socialist" mentality that some people have cloaked the open software movement in.
Sveasoft has the right to take open software and modify it and sell it. he has a right to eat and make a living.
Redhat has slowly tried to get out from under the cloak and has come up with a "funny" way of getting around it.
I wish the whole thing was rewritten (and they have tried to no avail) so that we can finally get a Linux distribution that can truly compete with Windows and the popularity it shares in thousands of "actually" usable and enjoyable software.
no this is not a troll line just my views.
I dual boot 4 OS's but when I need to do several things that I need to get done it's always in XP, because that is where the software IS.
Even games are barely making a scratch in Linux, then there's the poor drivers for hardware, this mentallity is what keeps ATI from releasing software for their AIW cards and many many other companies too.
I like Sveasoft and 20.00 dollars for their hardwork is a penny's worth to me. |
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