CudniLa Merma - Vigilado MVM join:2003-12-20 Someshire |
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2005-Nov-25 6:33 pm
Farewell to Broadbandreports.com |
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PacratOld and Cranky MVM join:2001-03-10 Cortland, OH |
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2005-Nov-25 6:40 pm
Google is dictating which domain is to be used? Sounds like the inmates took over the asylum! |
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2005-Nov-25 6:48 pm
said by Pacrat:Google is dictating which domain is to be used? Sounds like the inmates took over the asylum! Did you read the FAQ entry? If you'd like to finance the multi-year deficit in adsense income, then be my guest. |
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FAQ entry copied here for informational purposes: quote: Q: Broadbandreports.com vs dslreports.com (#13466)
A: As of 25th November 2005 we are restricting logins to our domain dslreports.com only. We are also going to automatically and transparently redirect all anonymous visitors to the dslreports.com domain as well. The broadbandreports.com domain will remain active, and our site logo will remain broadbandreports.com. Existing logins on broadbandreports.com will remain active, just for convenience, however sooner or later they will expire.
Why the shift?
Unfortunately we have to live within the ecosystem largely defined by the google search engine. The google "page-rank" for dslreports.com is higher than for broadbandreports.com. Google also indexes far more pages for dslreports.com than broadbandreports.com. Google offers no function for "renaming" a site while preserving the hard-won rank within its search results. Since a large part of our income is anonymous visitors from google (and other search engines) it is simply too costly to enforce usage of broadbandreports.com.
Why not allow both?
A login cookie created on one domain is not available on the other. Having two domains active means search engines are indexing the same content twice.
Is dslreports.com still known as BBR then?
Since the logo will still show broadbandreports.com, and the URL broadbandreports.com will still be active (albeit, redirect), then BBR is still a valid tag for the site.
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Amr3Pointing out the obvious Premium Member join:2001-12-03 San Antonio, TX |
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2005-Nov-25 7:35 pm
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yay, hated broadbandreports.com way too long to write and dslreports just had a homier feeling to it... |
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removed Premium Member join:2002-02-08 Houston, TX |
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Finally! |
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SmokeyI'd rather be skiing Premium Member join:2003-05-20 Wild West |
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Never used broadbandreports.com... what did I miss? |
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Airwolf Premium Member join:2001-10-30 Windsor, ON 1 edit
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That sucks. I've became accustomed to using broadbandreports.com since the name change. I even tell people to goto this site via that domain name. Oh well. Better change the bookmarks early before I forget and think the site is under some heavy maintenance one day when the domain is not longer active. A shame really. broadbandreports had a nice open arms community ring to it. I hope when the domain is no longer active that no one snatches it for their own personal competition.
Just curious, why not just shut down dslreports.com and have them start caching broadbandreports?
It may take a long while, but I'd think it would more pleasing in the end.
Things change. The only thing we can do is hope for some good out of it. At least the site isn't shutting down. Now that would be a shocker. |
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rfharThe World Sport, Played In Every Country Premium Member join:2001-03-26 Buicktown,Mi |
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After all that work to show that this site could help somebody besides the DSL people! Somehow I think we will survive. |
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GeekNJ Premium Member join:2000-09-23 Waldwick, NJ |
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Yay!!!
Don't forget to change the RSS feed to dslreports.com/... links |
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justin..needs sleep Mod join:1999-05-28 2031 Billion BiPAC 7800N Apple AirPort Extreme (2011)
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said by Airwolf: Oh well. Better change the bookmarks early before I forget and think the site is under some heavy maintenance one day when the domain is not longer active. The domain will always be active, at least as long as it is also the logo! and the bookmarks will keep working (via a redirect). etc etc. |
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bbrcatRemembering Lisa... MVM join:2000-12-09 FL |
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This will always be broadbandreports to me...but change is a way of life too. |
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KawiG5 Premium Member join:2002-02-09 Nanticoke, PA |
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I've always used dslreports.com domain. I guess this won't make any difference to me. |
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PeteC2Got Mouse? MVM join:2002-01-20 Bristol, CT 1 edit |
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Much ado about little enough...it's the content that counts...and with the amount of time I spend here...'nuff said! P.S....if they want, they could always rename it: PeteCs opinion place.com...:o |
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Santa FeBUT.....I Digress!
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I thought it was gonna become www.dialupreports.com??? :D:D I always used the broadbandreports one before, no problem going back to the dslreports Addy though! |
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PacratOld and Cranky MVM join:2001-03-10 Cortland, OH |
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I looked and didn't see it... but maybe this "news" should be on the front page somewhere? Or, at least, somewhere a little more conspicuous than just in Site Help. Just a thought. Or maybe a "sticky" in all the most visited forums for a few days. |
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It really doesn't matter what the site is called does it? I look at BBR as being the same as DSLR, having figured that it was just a matter of paying for either. The content as far as I know is the same so I guess I am confused. Of course, confusion isn't abnormal for me! |
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LuvfishinI guess things happen that way Premium Member join:2001-12-06 Canada |
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said by justin:said by Pacrat:Google is dictating which domain is to be used? Sounds like the inmates took over the asylum! Did you read the FAQ entry? If you'd like to finance the multi-year deficit in adsense income, then be my guest. Kinda sucks that where we rate on Google determines the sites name. That being said; I understand the bottom line and you must use the numbers which are both in your favour and the sites favour. Keep up the good work and thanks for creating this place to begin with. |
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nfxThe Wire Premium Member join:2001-05-21 Vancouver, BC
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2005-Nov-26 1:03 pm
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lets see if anyone gets so infuriated by this that they decide to dollarcide. |
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said by Luvfishin: Kinda sucks that where we rate on Google determines the sites name.
It doesn't -- the name remains the same. What's being redirected is the domain. |
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LuvfishinI guess things happen that way Premium Member join:2001-12-06 Canada
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said by MorWired:said by Luvfishin: Kinda sucks that where we rate on Google determines the sites name.
It doesn't -- the name remains the same. What's being redirected is the domain. Ok, then shall I say the "domain name". No worries. |
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justin..needs sleep Mod join:1999-05-28 2031 Billion BiPAC 7800N Apple AirPort Extreme (2011)
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yes it sucks. As WCB points out, it also impacts forum URL renaming. It is all about inbound links.
Right now every new inbound link is 50% going to be BBR and 50% going to be DSLR. If it is one, and not the other, then the other doesn't get the benefit.
Perhaps it was better to take the pain 2 years ago and just totally disable dslreports.com, but that could have killed us. We get 30,000 home page visits a day from anonymous users who get there via google high ranked hits. If that vanished overnight, then rose only slowly, the site might literally never recover. |
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MorWired
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2005-Nov-26 1:33 pm
said by justin: [....] the site might literally never recover.
Ok, now you're just being a meanie and trying to give us nightmares. I'm failing to grasp the aversion to a transparent redirect. Does it matter how we get here as long as there is a "here" to get to? Whatever is most profitable should be the way to go, that's an absolute no-brainer, this is a business, after all. |
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2005-Nov-26 1:44 pm
what do you mean, there is no aversion to a transparent redirect. That is what we have now. Visit www.broadbandreports.com/forums/all and you'll see the URL has changed to www.dslreports.com/forums/all. Isn't that a transparent redirect? |
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MorWired
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2005-Nov-26 1:50 pm
said by justin: what do you mean, there is no aversion to a transparent redirect. That is what we have now. Visit www.broadbandreports.com/forums/all and you'll see the URL has changed to www.dslreports.com/forums/all. Isn't that a transparent redirect?
Umm, yeah, it is. I'm not talking about the site/you having an aversion to it, I'm talking about the people complaining. |
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Why fall face flat on how a search engine decides who we are? If people need to find BBR than they will find it... "if you build it, they will come" does not have a search engine attached to it and I see no reason to follow that at all... You want advertisements, put on public TV! BBR got popular at the beginning without the help of oogle and believe it will live for another many years as long as justin is kickin'... I am not the only one who found this "hole in the wall" all by myself without the help of 00gle... For three years I was in and out of BBR before I signed on and trust me word of mouth in the world of computing goes far better than any oogle engine... well, that's too bad that BBR is history. RIP! |
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MorWired
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2005-Nov-26 2:27 pm
said by Da Geek Kid: BBR got popular at the beginning without the help of oogle and believe it will live for another many years as long as justin is kickin'...
I am not the only one who found this "hole in the wall" all by myself without the help of 00gle... For three years I was in and out of BBR before I signed on and trust me word of mouth in the world of computing goes far better than any oogle engine...
In the interest of accuracy, what you found was DSLR if you found it in 2000 -- the name/logo didn't change until years later. And I don't believe "word of mouth" is going to generate the kinds of numbers that Justin has described. said by Da Geek Kid: well, that's too bad that BBR is history. RIP!
No, BBR is not history. The name of the site continues to be BroadBandReports, but the domain name will be redirected to dslreports.com. Most people would likely not even notice, as long as they get to where they are going ... here. |
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BorednessSo bored... Premium Member join:2005-07-07 Fresno, CA |
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I always use www.bbr.com cause it's even shorter than dslreports and you always get reports on fine wine instead of that stuff you call broadband that you just can't drink. Hey, the domain name of www.b.com and www.bplreports.com is still available! The BBR domain has been BBQued thanks to googly google and I wanted to do it cause I'm the cook around here! |
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said by Da Geek Kid:Why fall face flat on how a search engine decides who we are? I can't argue with google about it. If they had a simple form where you input your OLD domain and your NEW domain, and this automatically carried over page rank and so on, I would move over to BBR (or another shorter domain name) and not look back. But that service just isn't available. |
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Stop the whining about broadbandreports.com and it's "farewell". The decision's been made... That said, "Yeah !". I started at this site when it was DSLReports, I still visit it as DSLReports, and any reference or referral I've ever made has been to DSLReports. In fact, I refused to login at broadbandreports.com as a "silent" protest. Always annoyed me when people hard-linked to broadbandreports.com instead of doing it the right way and I'd get someone's poor taste, IMO, in theme coloring. |
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