Nice idea not practical...... -

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BiggA join:2005-11-23 EARTH Reviews: ·Comcast	Nice idea not practical...... I guess I feel sorry for the people who cannot get satellite, but for those millions that can, if they don't like what the cable company is doing, get DirecTV or Dish, or visa-versa. I think when broadband pipes get really fat, we will see IPTV that is independent of the ISP/ incumbent (vonage for TV), but until then good look with a-la-carte. Instead of offering a package of the 50 popular channels, they will bundle all 13 discoveries for $15/mo, all 5 ESPNs, etc, so you will have to pay like $100 just to get ESPN1, MTV1, Discovery channel, ETC. Or, if it was all a-la-carte, it would cost $100/mo to get all channels except the permiums, not the $46 it takes now (DirecTV TC Plus w/ locals, 1 TV).
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TitoXx Premium join:2003-03-19 Hamtramck, MI	most people can get satellite.why do they still bother with cable and their rate increases.I switched to dish 5 1/2 years ago and never looked back.
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jeffs471 join:2005-09-16 Camarillo, CA	I don't want to sign a contract
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TitoXx Premium join:2003-03-19 Hamtramck, MI	A 12 mo. contract is nothing.But if u buy your system u dont sign a contract.
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LBDSL Lightning Bolt VIP join:2002-01-07 Auburn Hills, MI 3 edits	reply to jeffs471 said by jeffs471: I don't want to sign a contract said by »www.dishtv.com/best_programming_deal.jsp Package Cost FREE ACTIVATION: Pay a $49.99 Activation Fee and a get a $49.99 credit on your first bill.* Hardware: NO COST Programming: $31.99/mo (includes locals where available) DVR Service Fee: $4.98/mo Installation: FREE No Commitment *$49.99 credit on the first bill requires an 18-month commitment to Digital Home Advantage. If qualifying service is terminated prior to end of 18 months, a cancellation fee equal to the lesser of $240 or $13.33 per month for each cancelled month of service will apply. Contract only applies to get free activation. -- Lightning Bolt Technologies
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whoamIoramI join:2004-05-17 Jersey City, NJ	Yeah right. one month ago I wanted Directv. 2 year contract with HDTV $10.99 a month extra for HDTV $200 for equipment And if the equipment breaks I have to buy a new one or I could pay them $7 a month for insurance. In the end Comcast comes out cheaper, no contract and I get better quality (yes you read right). My neighbor has Directv HD and mine blows it away.
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novaflare The Dragon Was Here Premium join:2002-01-24 Barberton, OH	reply to TitoXx said by TitoXx: most people can get satellite.why do they still bother with cable and their rate increases.I switched to dish 5 1/2 years ago and never looked back. How much do you pay in total for dish per month with all your programing and how many non duplicate channels do you get? -- DSLR security chat at us.ausirc.net chanel #dslr_sec lets pack this channelopen source dns server for *nix and windows »powerdns.com
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Necronomikro join:2005-09-01	reply to whoamIoramI The link he provided was for DISH NETWORK. DirectTV is a different company.
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raybrett join:2001-02-20 Saint Louis, MO	reply to TitoXx I still bother because I prefer not to disconnect the TVs and recorders that I currently have connected. The price of receivers would likely exceed the cost of the service if I go with satellite. Now when I am forced to go digital, I will have to reevaluate, but until then I will stick with my analog system.
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novaflare The Dragon Was Here Premium join:2002-01-24 Barberton, OH	said by raybrett: I still bother because I prefer not to disconnect the TVs and recorders that I currently have connected. The price of receivers would likely exceed the cost of the service if I go with satellite. Now when I am forced to go digital, I will have to reevaluate, but until then I will stick with my analog system. Here each additional digital box is like 1.99 or 2.99 forget wich exactly now. Just dont break the remote those things are expensive. 30 bucks to replace. Now a remote that just goes dead costs you nothing to replace but if its oh i dont know steped on and busted (dont ask heh) they charge you for it heh. As for digital its funny but 90% of tvs out there are not even capable of useing digital thats what the "converter box" is for. It converts the digital signal to analog so your tv can use it. Any projection big screen tv is analog as is all crts. LCD tv is digital (analog to digital converter in the tv) same for plasma. Not many people have plasma tvs or lcd tvs so your digital cable or satalite does nothing to improve your picture. Digital just lets them provide more channels at this point for most people. Some one mentioned they get can great picture on hdtvs from arial count your self lucky here theres so much interfearance from cable lines your lucky to be able to get a fuzzy picture from any arial channel. Its like the cable wires have set up a jamming signal that prevents it. Hell its hard to pick up some radio stations on portable walkman like stereos if you below the wires. -- DSLR security chat at us.ausirc.net chanel #dslr_sec lets pack this channelopen source dns server for *nix and windows »powerdns.com
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novaflare The Dragon Was Here Premium join:2002-01-24 Barberton, OH	reply to novaflare said by novaflare: said by TitoXx: most people can get satellite.why do they still bother with cable and their rate increases.I switched to dish 5 1/2 years ago and never looked back. How much do you pay in total for dish per month with all your programing and how many non duplicate channels do you get? For dish network to get 120 channels would cost me 67.99 for 4 rooms. To bad there are 5 people here each watch something diffrent so got to tag on a extra 5 makeing it 72.99 TWC for digital cable digital phone and road runner is 141 per month no reciever needed for extended basic and no cost. For digital tier its 59.95 for 2 to 158 thats 13.04 less. Extra box 2.99 so say 4x boxes so all rooms have digital (no extra cost for the service just the box) Total cost for digital in 5 rooms 71.95. Now remember just to get satalite in 5 room means a box for each room where as to just get basic 2 to 62 in every room of your house on every tv is 59.99. No matter how you look at it its cheaper for TWC cable. Now i have digital home at 141 per month total. Break that down simply deviding by 3 cost 47 dolors per service. So lets have some more math fun. Say you want broadban dsl at 39.95 pluss vonage at 29.99 and dish in 5 rooms. Total price comes out to 142.99 2 dolors more than smart home digital/home. And thats for lower speed dsl to get road runner like 3 megs a secound speeds is more around 50 per month or more so 152 full 10 dolors more. Dish is far from being cheap. Add in other hidden charges like repair costs cancleation fees etc and yourr talking much much more. 50% of those i know with dish have horrid reception in windy or wet conditions. Yet my cable remans clear all year round. Cable box does tend to crash now and then but thats a 5 minute reset on the box every few days. -- DSLR security chat at us.ausirc.net chanel #dslr_sec lets pack this channelopen source dns server for *nix and windows »powerdns.com
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raybrett join:2001-02-20 Saint Louis, MO	reply to novaflare Of course, $3.00 per receiver times 13 devices would be $39. Since all of the devices currently have analog tuners, I am not interested in dropping the extra on digital converter boxes. The main reason I went cable initially was to eliminate ghosting of the over the air stations. I don't know if over the air HDTV will ghost here or not, but since I have close to zero interest in HDTV, it may be a while before I find out. Frankly, in my opinion the improvement in picture quality is not enough to justify the additional cost of replacing my equipment.
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Skippy25 join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO	reply to novaflare Your not very accurate in what you are saying. The closer to the TV the provider is able to get a pure digital signal the better it is going to be. The beauty of digital is that it is good or it is nothing. You can't have a fuzzy digital picture. I would strongly disagree with your comment that analog TV's do not benefit from having the digital signal not getting converted until it is in a box on top of the TV. Even though the TV is not digital itself and has to have the signal converted to analog, it is working with a cleaner version of the picture to begin with. This is why DirecTV looks much better on any TV in my house then the analog cable does. That is a fact and is clearly evident by the naked eye. There is not a TV out there and there never will be one that does not eventually convert a digital signal to analog because a human cant comprehend digital. Therefore the longer it stays digital and the better it is converted, the higher the quality.
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novaflare The Dragon Was Here Premium join:2002-01-24 Barberton, OH	said by Skippy25: Your not very accurate in what you are saying. The closer to the TV the provider is able to get a pure digital signal the better it is going to be. The beauty of digital is that it is good or it is nothing. You can't have a fuzzy digital picture. I would strongly disagree with your comment that analog TV's do not benefit from having the digital signal not getting converted until it is in a box on top of the TV. Even though the TV is not digital itself and has to have the signal converted to analog, it is working with a cleaner version of the picture to begin with. This is why DirecTV looks much better on any TV in my house then the analog cable does. That is a fact and is clearly evident by the naked eye. There is not a TV out there and there never will be one that does not eventually convert a digital signal to analog because a human cant comprehend digital. Therefore the longer it stays digital and the better it is converted, the higher the quality. Well heres the thing not every channel coming ofver the wire started as a digital signal many start as analog. Thus they are converted to digital and sent to you at that point the cable converter converts back to analog before sending the signal out to your tv. What does that mean exactly? Not a whole lot if the signal is good and strong and not being screwed up along the way some where. But if you got a bad cable in your house outside your house or up the road you loose signal power. So in the final conversion to analog you loose quality. This is what causes the pixlation youll see now and then on digital cable. In a perfect world all signals would be broadcast in digital and your tv would use digital. -- DSLR security chat at us.ausirc.net chanel #dslr_sec lets pack this channelopen source dns server for *nix and windows »powerdns.com
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BiggA join:2005-11-23 EARTH Reviews: ·Comcast	The idea of competition (unlike the uncompetitive BB market) was the idea of my original post. Although in a few areas where you are way close to the cableco, analog may look fine, didgital is better. The best is hybrid with digital simulcast for alll channels, so the 65" TV can have a digital HD box, and then the 13 other tvs can have analog on the cheap.
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