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Re: Disband this circus said by kamm:I said this before, I'm stil saying this: disband the FCC! ... change the administration. This administration and all functions controlled by it have no concern for the public or the consumer at all. They do not believe in regulating business. Kevin Martin does not believe in regulating business (unless it involves obscenity).
Previous FCCs have done good things. The FCC is SUPPOSED to be working for the consumer. We need different people on the FCC.
But yeah, right now, consumers are f'd. | |  1 edit | I hate to burst your bubble, but broadband is not the only potato on the FCC plate. What seems to escape many here is that the FCC is not run, day by day, by the commissioners, who are political appointees and MAY shape the general direction they proceed in.
The people who DO run the FCC day to day are the people who run the various bureaus and the engineering staff.
This is the same dumb mentality that holds that president Bush is on top of every little thing that happens, has a evil master plan to conquer the world, all his staff just marches in lockstep and only has to issue orders and it is done. Rediculous. People with this mentality simply have no clue how the government-or, anything else for that matter,-runs.
In this case, you are assuming the commissioners are tech geniuses, bought by the evil telcos and marching in lockstep to orders from corporate headquarters-again, rediculous-and all they have to do is snap their fingers and it is so. Yet, anyone who has actually dealt with the FCC in any real manner knows that it is not the commissioners that make the day to day decisions. It is the people who run the wireless telecommunications bureau and the various enforcement bureaus, etc.
Decisions made by the FCC, for the most part, are remarkably non political and even handed. It has allways been so. One needs to ask onesself how, if the commissioners are running things, does the FCC manage to do the technical work it does and come to decisions consistentl that have worked as intended for decades as the commissioners come and go?
Understandably, one is angry when a decision goes against ones wishes, however, that does not mean that it is the wrong decision IN THE LONGER RUN. | |  kamm join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY 1 edit | said by Fatal Vector:Decisions made by the FCC, for the most part, are remarkably non political and even handed. I hate to burst the bubble you're living in but it's not true at all.
FCC is FAR from being non-politcal or even handed.
It has allways been so.
No, it used to be.
One needs to ask onesself how, if the commissioners are running things, does the FCC manage to do the technical work it does and come to decisions consistentl that have worked as intended for decades as the commissioners come and go?
Obviously the asking one never worked in such position if he dares to ask such a silly question - policy decisionas are ALWAYS made by the leaders, rest of the satff - the career personnel, the technical personnel etc - usually prepare and execute, that's it.
It's the same like everywhere else - but the asking one apparently doesn't have the slightest idea about management.
Understandably, one is angry when a decision goes against ones wishes, however, that does not mean that it is the wrong decision IN THE LONGER RUN. You better read the article first next time - there wasn't any "decision", merely an expression of the current state of mind of this @sshole. However it is obvious that it isn't hte right direction for the customers, even a 10ys old kid could tell you this. | |  | "FCC is FAR from being non-politcal or even handed."
Really? You couldn't prove that by me and I have been around watching what they do for over 30 years.
"No, it used to be."
It still is. All one needs to do is actually go to the FCC website and rummage around, since they post their decisions and very detailed reasonings behind them, instead of having a hissy fit over what the FCC chairman says. Chairman powell said they would push BPL too, yet it hasn't happened. In fact, that initiative was stalled even before he left.
"Obviously the asking one never worked in such position if he dares to ask such a silly question - policy decisionas are ALWAYS made by the leaders, rest of the satff - the career personnel, the technical personnel etc - usually prepare and execute, that's it."
This is, perhaps, true in the corporate world. However, the FCC is not the corporate world. It is a technically oriented agency with a staff that has been around for decades, with a set of "commissioners" That serve 5 years at most, at the pleasure of the president.
Which means they change relitively rapidly and espouse the current stance of the executive, but, in the end, have little or no actual effect on what actually happens. It is the STAFF who make the actual rulings and decisions, as you would know if you actually bothered to go to their website and go below the fluffery.
"You better read the article first next time - there wasn't any "decision", merely an expression of the current state of mind of this @sshole. However it is obvious that it isn't hte right direction for the customers, even a 10ys old kid could tell you this."
The word decision in my post was used within the context of my post and did not referr to any specific decision of the FCC. Yes, we are talking about the opinion of the current chairman of the FCC here and you know he's an asshole....how? Do you know him personally, or, are you just upset because he disagrees with you and has a different viewpoint?
It might be "obvious" to you that it "isn't the right direction for the customers", but not so "obvious" to others who can actually think, know what they are talking about and who do not react to such thigs with emotional hysteronics.
And, a 10 year old kid could not tell any of us this, because he would not have the reasoning powers and experience that adults have to form and express such opinions.
I dont know if you are familliar with my previously stated definitions of a intellectually bankrupt mind, but I daresay your post comes close. Did it ever occur to you that there ARE actually people who know what they are talking about and who ARE able to actually think? If you're going to hang with the intellectuals, perhaps you should learn that skill? | |  kamm join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY | reply to Fatal Vector
Re: Disband this circus said by Fatal Vector:"FCC is FAR from being non-politcal or even handed." Really? You couldn't prove that by me and I have been around watching what they do for over 30 years. "No, it used to be." It still is. All one needs to do is actually go to the FCC website and rummage around, since they post their decisions and very detailed reasonings behind them, instead of having a hissy fit over what the FCC chairman says. Chairman powell said they would push BPL too, yet it hasn't happened. In fact, that initiative was stalled even before he left. "Obviously the asking one never worked in such position if he dares to ask such a silly question - policy decisionas are ALWAYS made by the leaders, rest of the satff - the career personnel, the technical personnel etc - usually prepare and execute, that's it." This is, perhaps, true in the corporate world. However, the FCC is not the corporate world. It is a technically oriented agency with a staff that has been around for decades, with a set of "commissioners" That serve 5 years at most, at the pleasure of the president. Which means they change relitively rapidly and espouse the current stance of the executive, but, in the end, have little or no actual effect on what actually happens. It is the STAFF who make the actual rulings and decisions, as you would know if you actually bothered to go to their website and go below the fluffery. "You better read the article first next time - there wasn't any "decision", merely an expression of the current state of mind of this @sshole. However it is obvious that it isn't hte right direction for the customers, even a 10ys old kid could tell you this." The word decision in my post was used within the context of my post and did not referr to any specific decision of the FCC. Yes, we are talking about the opinion of the current chairman of the FCC here and you know he's an asshole....how? Do you know him personally, or, are you just upset because he disagrees with you and has a different viewpoint? It might be "obvious" to you that it "isn't the right direction for the customers", but not so "obvious" to others who can actually think, know what they are talking about and who do not react to such thigs with emotional hysteronics. You really make me laugh, kid. You're obviously soooo clueless on this that's just downright hilarious. You're claiming you're watching FCC for 30 ys - though it's quite obvious from your utter lack of knowledge in your post you weren't more than a funny thought 30 ys ago - and you're claiming 'they are unbiased' and leaders are not setting policies? LOL.
Oh boy... at least read up on the subject before you post such arrogant silly crap like you did above - have you heard about Powell? I doubt it - here's a link, kid: »www.usatoday.com/money/companies···.htm[/b]
That's your daily rebuttal - you may want to drop your childish (should I say clueless?) idea about who's making POLICY decisions... suuuure, the staff make decisions, rrrrright...  
I dont know if you are familliar with my previously stated definitions of a intellectually bankrupt mind, but I daresay your post comes close.
I'm really not familiar with *ANY* of your post, pal. You barely hit the 'reply-bar' here, believe me. Of course this also means I really don't give a flying frog about your namecalling either.
Did it ever occur to you that there ARE actually people who know what they are talking about and who ARE able to actually think? If you're going to hang with the intellectuals, perhaps you should learn that skill? Have you ever worked anywhere yet? I mean other than cleaning McDonalds? I doubt it - otherwise you wouldn't claim such silly thing like FCC policies usually made by the staff... let me just call this utterly clueless post. So much for your 'who know what they are talking about' - that's definitely not you, pal. | |
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