the dozerPremium
join:2004-04-12
Douglasville, GA | Just wait for technick Give him some time...I'm sure he'll post something negative
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 technickPremium
join:2000-12-16
Wheat Ridge, CO
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said by the dozer:Give him some time...I'm sure he'll post something negative about it/BellSouth....Usually does!!! Wow it's nice to see someone thinks about me when Bellsouth stories roll around.
I honestly think everything i've said in the past is the truth about Bellsouth. The execs at Bellsouth are only out to make $$ and have no interest in improving the network outside of "just getting by" to keep customers from jumping ship.
I've thought long and hard about it. I'd love to have a sit down talk with one of these Bellsouth executives over a nice cup of coffee. Though I doubt talking to them would do much good, the only way to get these people to listen is to voice your opinion with your pocket book.
Before you know it, Bellsouth users will be tiered in too two groups of users with broadband. The first tier will have fast access to internet sites surfing at 6 megs with the quickest routing tables direct to host. The second group will be sitting around with 6 meg connections, but routing traffic through China to get to a local webserver. Why? Because the second group didn't pay extra $$ to access premium internet, even though broadband is supposed to be premium.
When does the greed end?
I hope Mizzat  didn't get the axe in this round of job cuts...
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| said by technick:I've thought long and hard about it. I'd love to have a sit down talk with one of these Bellsouth executives over a nice cup of coffee. Someone very high up once told me many of those people have calender of "time to retirement". Everyday equals one less day of work. They aren't concerned with you, or me, or anyone other than the 401k and the buyout. They might not even care of the company is here in 10 years.
But what we all need to think about is the global economy. We cannot afford to fall behind in terms of internet innovation. If our internet becomes inaccessible our productivity will suffer, and thats really all we got against the 100lb gorilla that is China/India. Duane Ackerman needs to think about that, while he lines his pockets he may empty his children's. |
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join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN | said by clecrupt9:Someone very high up once told me many of those people have calender of "time to retirement". Everyday equals one less day of work. They aren't concerned with you, or me, or anyone other than the 401k and the buyout. They might not even care of the company is here in 10 years. I'll just keep this short and sweet. Horse hockey. |
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 MizzatWill post for thumbsPremium
join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
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hehe, nope I'm around and kicking. My office was the most profitable in Small Business Outbound. We are hiring, not firing...and I'm off with pay till next year 
Edit: Oh, and BellSouth has layoffs every year, but the article said nothing of laying off. It said elimanting positions. Most people will probably happily take a severence package and move on. This notice probably has a lot to with some kind of restructuring internal to BellSouth  |
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said by clecrupt9:the 100lb gorilla that is China/India. That's a tiny gorilla. |
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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I don't get how BBR missed Verizon's recent fat-trimming after there was talk that "the street" was nervous about how long it would take for them to recoup on FIOS...
»www.recordonline.com/archive/200···-12.html
I thought that I'd also seen mention of a string of layoffs, but news.google.com isn't finding it for me.
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Better hope there isn't a pink slip waiting for you when you get back! Wouldn't be surprised. (because that's the way they tend to do things  )And mark my words, in my humble opinion, wait to hear the new AT&T announce this coming year that they are going to buy Bellsouth. Just an educated guess on my part. |
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MizzatWill post for thumbsPremium
join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
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| Naw. I should be fine. I don't know about what the brass is thinking about buying or selling. I know Duane has the least amount of stock ownership of mose CEOs I've seen, so I don't know how much he would profit from a sale, but a takeover/buyout might be possible. I don't know after the last bit of mergers and buys that any other company would have the capital, as BellSouth was the most profitable Bell in the US thus far, I believe. |
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I retired BellSo after 32 yrs in 2001 and was talking today with an old buddy still there, about how it is only the old-timers that do give a damn about the company and how we were brought up on service first. Now the new kids don't plan on staying long ,the company only wants the fast buck.
This all started about 10-15 when Bell like a lot of company's became a 'TEAM' instead of a 'Family',they actually said one time that if you can't hit a home run we don't need you.
This was brought about when the big company started to promote higher management from the suit crowd fresh out of college instead of up from the ranks. At the Big three or ten it is stock price and upper level pay first- everything else 3rd.
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 AlpinePremium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
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said by Bell System:Better hope there isn't a pink slip waiting for you when you get back! Wouldn't be surprised. (because that's the way they tend to do things A lot of completely ridiculous and uninformed things are said on this board (especially about the incumbents), but I had to specifically address this one because it's just so stupid.
When BellSouth got rid of 6000 people in 2002, do you know how many came from volunteers taking an offer they were given? 5900. So 100 out of 6000 were actual layoffs. That's less than 2%. Do you know what that package included other than a large chunk of cash (up to 150% of your salary then)? Two year totally paid tuition so that you could go back to school if you wanted. Paid health benefits for 6-months. Help finding another job.
Yeah - really sounds like those people came back from Christmas to find a pink slip and an escorted trip out the door.. Hell, a lot of those people loved the offer - early retirement!
And they're doing the exact same thing this time (though the cash payout is limited to 120% of your salary), and it's only 1500 managers. How many do you think will be involuntary firings? You'd be smart to bet on zero.
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MizzatWill post for thumbsPremium
join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
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| said by Alpine:said by Bell System:Better hope there isn't a pink slip waiting for you when you get back! Wouldn't be surprised. (because that's the way they tend to do things A lot of completely ridiculous and uninformed things are said on this board (especially about the incumbents), but I had to specifically address this one because it's just so stupid. When BellSouth got rid of 6000 people in 2002, do you know how many came from volunteers taking an offer they were given? 5900. So 100 out of 6000 were actual layoffs. That's less than 2%. Do you know what that package included other than a large chunk of cash (up to 150% of your salary then)? Two year totally paid tuition so that you could go back to school if you wanted. Paid health benefits for 6-months. Help finding another job. Yeah - really sounds like those people came back from Christmas to find a pink slip and an escorted trip out the door.. Hell, a lot of those people loved the offer - early retirement! And they're doing the exact same thing this time (though the cash payout is limited to 120% of your salary), and it's only 1500 managers. How many do you think will be involuntary firings? You'd be smart to bet on zero. Stupid people shouldn't breed... Adam You elaborated on what I said, good explanation. |
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You are so right...it is not family oriented. I started working in 2000 and was terminated 10-2005 because I was not 100+% in Sales. It is NOT a family, it is all about the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR and who ever is not bringing in the bucks...they put you out. I was terminated the day after my husband had a tragic hunting accident...I was scolded when I called from the hospital mid morning, because I did not call in before my tour. I had to come in that after noon to get my term papers. How about that for a good company with good morals and benefits. |
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MizzatWill post for thumbsPremium
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Atlanta, GA
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| said by huny:You are so right...it is not family oriented. I started working in 2000 and was terminated 10-2005 because I was not 100+% in Sales. It is NOT a family, it is all about the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR and who ever is not bringing in the bucks...they put you out. I was terminated the day after my husband had a tragic hunting accident...I was scolded when I called from the hospital mid morning, because I did not call in before my tour. I had to come in that after noon to get my term papers. How about that for a good company with good morals and benefits. Sorry about the tragic loss and all, but it is a different story in my office I've seen people work in my office for about a year and never make thier numbers before they get asked to leave. It depends on where you are, I suppose. |
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