Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" in Spam, Scam and Phishbusters http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15038463 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:35:03 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:35:03 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15044849 aefstoggaflm :
said by madylarian See Profile :

I had to do just that recently when I got a newsletter from a local pet sitter and saw the addresses of all of their clients along with mine. This is what I wrote:
quote:
I don't mind getting your newletter, but I was a bit dismayed to find that my address, as well as those of all the other people on your list were not concealed. This is one of the many ways that spammers get peoples' email addresses, not to mention that I have no business seeing anyone else's. I strongly urge you to use the BCC field in future mailings. No matter what email program you use to send out the newsletter, I am sure it has a BCC field. This is the "Blind Carbon Copy" field and when used properly, no one sees any other address on the list.


After they responded somewhat hesitantly, I sent this:
quote:
Be assured that I never thought that anyone was a spammer. However, all it takes is one person's computer being infected with one of the way too many computer viruses floating around. You see, many of those infections will read any and all email addresses on the infected computer. The infection then sends itself out to all of those addresses, trying to spread itself, as well as leaving the infected computers open to be used by spammers. In fact, spammers actually pay hackers to create such infections so that they can use an innocent person's computer to send out their spam. This is doubly true of anyone with a broadband connection. Spammer's especially love Comcast! (Note: I am also a Comcast internet customer)

It's sad that we have to take such precautions these days, but by using the BCC field you are protecting all of your customers. Rest assured that you are doing the right thing and acting as a good internet citizen.


And they did just that. They now put all of their client addresses in the BCC field.

mady
Good, :D I will try something simular along those line(s)..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15044849 Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:21:24 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15040779 madylarian : I had to do just that recently when I got a newsletter from a local pet sitter and saw the addresses of all of their clients along with mine. This is what I wrote:
quote:
I don't mind getting your newletter, but I was a bit dismayed to find that my address, as well as those of all the other people on your list were not concealed. This is one of the many ways that spammers get peoples' email addresses, not to mention that I have no business seeing anyone else's. I strongly urge you to use the BCC field in future mailings. No matter what email program you use to send out the newsletter, I am sure it has a BCC field. This is the "Blind Carbon Copy" field and when used properly, no one sees any other address on the list.


After they responded somewhat hesitantly, I sent this:
quote:
Be assured that I never thought that anyone was a spammer. However, all it takes is one person's computer being infected with one of the way too many computer viruses floating around. You see, many of those infections will read any and all email addresses on the infected computer. The infection then sends itself out to all of those addresses, trying to spread itself, as well as leaving the infected computers open to be used by spammers. In fact, spammers actually pay hackers to create such infections so that they can use an innocent person's computer to send out their spam. This is doubly true of anyone with a broadband connection. Spammer's especially love Comcast! (Note: I am also a Comcast internet customer)

It's sad that we have to take such precautions these days, but by using the BCC field you are protecting all of your customers. Rest assured that you are doing the right thing and acting as a good internet citizen.


And they did just that. They now put all of their client addresses in the BCC field.

mady
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Honi soit qui mal y pense]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15040779 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:36:57 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039546 Mordy : Like in all things, use need to use *your* best judgement - you know the persons that you need to communicate this to. I'm sure you know how to be polite, and if after one polite request they ignore, I usually reply to all. It usually doesn't take more than one request. Just avoid being obnoxious, and I'm sure you will be fine. Throw in a couple of smilies :):) just to make sure you know you are trying to nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039546 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:17:40 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039395 aefstoggaflm :
said by Mordy See Profile :

Do what you just did...send them the links to the sites that you listed in your original post, asking them to use BCC when sending email to more than one person. A polite explanation of your concerns, and asking them for their help.

In my original post was that a polite explanation of my concerns? Also how should I ask them to help (other than what I said in the OP)?

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said by Mordy See Profile :

I've done this many times; for those who refuse to do use bcc after a polite request, I usually reply to all (yes all) mirroring the request; that way others on the list of recipients can chime in "Me Too". Usually after a while the clueless gets a clue.
How much time should I allow before I "reply to all?"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039395 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:56:29 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039273 Mordy : Do what you just did...send them the links to the sites that you listed in your original post, asking them to use BCC when sending email to more than one person. A polite explanation of your concerns, and asking them for their help.

I've done this many times; for those who refuse to do use bcc after a polite request, I usually reply to all (yes all) mirroring the request; that way others on the list of recipients can chime in "Me Too". Usually after a while the clueless gets a clue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039273 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:36:42 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039069 aefstoggaflm :
said by removed See Profile :

Oh, sorry, I missed the question part.

Just ask nicely and explain what's up. Everyone I've mentioned it to has understood my point and changed over to using BCC.
What and how should I say it?

How did you tell them?

Note: It will be by e-mail. Unless it is recommended to call them, ETC..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15039069 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:04:50 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038836 removed : Oh, sorry, I missed the question part.

Just ask nicely and explain what's up. Everyone I've mentioned it to has understood my point and changed over to using BCC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038836 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:38:28 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038822 aefstoggaflm :
said by removed See Profile :

Agreed. It annoys me when people send email where EVERYONE on the list is visible.
I am not trying to be mean / rude, but that was a question.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038822 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:36:23 EDT Re: Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038483 removed : Agreed. It annoys me when people send email where EVERYONE on the list is visible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038483 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:53:59 EDT Tell sender to use BBC e-mail 2 people "plus" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038463 aefstoggaflm : How should I tell a sender to send email, especially when message(s) are being sent to people I don't know, as BCC?

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BCC for Privacy!

Please don't put my email address in the To or CC fields of messages being sent to people I don't know!

Please protect email addresses as you would phone numbers -- unlisted phone
numbers.

Many people are protective of their email addresses. They don't care to receive
email from random people on the net. Perhaps you've decided your clever joke,
worthy cause, or business announcement was worth sending to them. You've also
sent their email address to everyone else on the mailing.

Look at it another way, would you send your entire holiday card list out with
each card you sent? Of course, some people would not like getting the list and
others would not appreciate being on the list being sent everyone.

And if you're in business, would you think of giving away your contact list?
That's what you're doing by including everyone in the To or CC fields. And some
recipients of your mailing might consider everyone else on your list interested
in similar mailings and feel free to use the list themselves.

Viruses and spam-bots are now designed to go through mail files and address
books looking for potential addresses. Sending a single message individually
addressed to a large list of people increases the chances that they all will be
spammed or sent a virus should any one of them get infected.

Out of respect for your recipients, would you please consider not listing them
each individually in your mailings?

If your "mailing list" is personal, you can just use BCC for all the names. (You
can send it To yourself.) If it's a more business oriented list, why not make it
an official mailing list at your site and use the alias rather than including
everyone's name and email address in the headers? You can set up free mailing
lists at Yahoo! Groups. To protect your list from abuse, you still may wish to
BCC it.

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Use BCC field when addressing mass mail

PLEASE READ and become a better E-mail user. This information is intended not
only to make you a neater "E-mailer" but one that is more considerate and more
thoughtful... Your friends will be thankful.

Would you write your friends' phone numbers on the walls of public places? If
you answer no, then why would you spread their E-mail addresses to a bunch of
strangers, many of whom will in turn forward the same addresses to even more
strangers? Don't do it! Instead, use the BCC feature of your E-mail program.

BCC means Blind Carbon Copy. It is a way of addressing mail to more than one
person so that everyone's address is not displayed for all to see. Every E-mail
program, even free, web-based E-mail services, allow you to address messages
using BCC, in other words, to "BCC" one or more recipients. Some require that
you provide at least ONE address in the TO: field. If this is the case, place
YOUR OWN address in the TO: field and all your recipients' addresses on the BCC
field.

WHY:

* Using BCC protects your recipients' E-mail addresses from being spread to
strangers.
* Using BCC helps prevent SPAM (Unsolicited Commercial E-mail)
* When using BCC, messages will be easier on your readers because they will
be smaller, with fewer addresses on each message. They will even download
faster.
* Using BCC shows your consideration of others by not publishing hundreds of
your friends' addresses to strangers and potentially, SPAMMERS or maybe even
stalkers.

How to BCC:

* AOL does not have a dedicated BCC field. To send mail via BCC, place
addresses and screen names in the CC field surrounded by parentheses. For
example: (billyg@msn.com, SteveCase, lunchmeat@spam.net)
* Outlook Express: To turn on the BCC field:
Create a New message and choose View, All Headers.
* MS-Outlook: To turn on the BCC field
Create a New message and choose View, BCC.
* Netscape Messenger: To send via BCC, type the first address, click the To:
button on the left of the name and choose BCC from the drop-down list. After
pressing ENTER, each subsequent address you type will be Blind Carbon Copied.
* Lotus Notes - the BCC field is right there. Nothing to "turn on", no hoops
to jump through, just use it!
* Juno Mail - Juno versions earlier than 3.0 do not allow BCC! However with
Juno 3.0, the BCC feature exists and works just like AOL. There is no dedicated
BCC field. Instead, place alias/nickname, mailing list name, or e-mail address
in CC field and surround entire collection in parentheses.
* WebTV - Can't be done!

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[EDIT]Thanks in advance]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15038463 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:50:48 EDT