Wilkes Barre has more serious problems in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15055534 en Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:41:48 EDT Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:41:48 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15057327 TheMadSwede :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia :) The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower.
I don't disagree with you about people getting bought off; however, it's always best to provide proof of such.

For example, people in Chicago talk all the time about the current mayoral adminstration's "indiscretions" and yet the current administration has been in power since 1989. Granted there are current federal investigations going on; however, there's little value in saying there's corruption, but much value in proving it. (if you're from Chicago, spare me the flames - I dislike Daley just as much as the next guy).
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said by vpoko See Profile :

Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk.
Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia :) The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower.
So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition?
I thought you were saying that Earthlink was assuming the financial risk on the stadum.
The original post talked about the money spent on the stadium, not any money spent on Wireless Philadelphia.
My bad! I know nothing of the stadium.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056930 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:44:26 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056891 marigolds :
said by vpoko See Profile :

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by vpoko See Profile :

Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk.
Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia :) The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower.
So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition?
I thought you were saying that Earthlink was assuming the financial risk on the stadum.
The original post talked about the money spent on the stadium, not any money spent on Wireless Philadelphia.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by vpoko See Profile :

Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk.
Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia :) The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower.
So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056268 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:04:16 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056228 pnh102 :
said by vpoko See Profile :

Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk.
Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia :) The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by vpoko See Profile :

If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them?
Philadelphia spent nearly $1 billion on new sports stadiums while they continue to have some of the worst schools in Pennsylvania and a disturbingly increasing crime rate. You would think they would be all for pouring more money into the school system (go drive down Broad Street and see how palatial the school system building is) or hiring more cops. Nah, they just want to waste their money on an unneeded toy network. Other "cash-strapped" cities in Penna. shouldn't be making this mistake.
Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056190 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:54:22 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15056154 pnh102 :
said by vpoko See Profile :

If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them?
Philadelphia spent nearly $1 billion on new sports stadiums while they continue to have some of the worst schools in Pennsylvania and a disturbingly increasing crime rate. You would think they would be all for pouring more money into the school system (go drive down Broad Street and see how palatial the school system building is) or hiring more cops. Nah, they just want to waste their money on an unneeded toy network. Other "cash-strapped" cities in Penna. shouldn't be making this mistake.
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said by enOehT See Profile :

Indeed education might help them. They need all the help they can get.
See I'd be all for dumping the money they would spend on WiFi into the school system.
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said by JTRockville See Profile :

Are Wilkes Barre officials limited to only one action at a time, or is it possible they could do both (deal with drug-addicted bums and beggers AND build a Wi-Fi network)?
Depends on whos brother/nephew/uncle stands to benefit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055897 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:11:09 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055883 vpoko :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by JTRockville See Profile :

Are Wilkes Barre officials limited to only one action at a time, or is it possible they could do both (deal with drug-addicted bums and beggers AND build a Wi-Fi network)?
They could but if you have a limited amount of cash, as most cities do, then it makes more sense to allocate that cash to solve the most critical problems first and then use what is left to deal with other issues.
Ahh, the article is not clear on whether this would be paid for with tax dollars. If so, I have to agree with you there. if they want to expand internet access to poor communities the best way to do it would be through public libraries. Otherwise there are much more urgent ways to spend that money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055883 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:07:31 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055849 pnh102 :
said by JTRockville See Profile :

Are Wilkes Barre officials limited to only one action at a time, or is it possible they could do both (deal with drug-addicted bums and beggers AND build a Wi-Fi network)?
They could but if you have a limited amount of cash, as most cities do, then it makes more sense to allocate that cash to solve the most critical problems first and then use what is left to deal with other issues.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead?
Getting rid of people sure has a nice ring to it, maybe he should focus funds on opening up more of the homeless shelters which I think he closed since somebody told me there has not been this many homeless on the streets for years. I bet, plenty of those people could want a job and would probably find plenty within public works as well.

Btw, its great to know that the same company that is forcing me and my roommates to fork over $40 a month, where did the $30 a month deal go, is going to supply the wireless. And it is probably going to be in the old section too so I won't be able to receive it from my apartment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055729 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:40:47 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055700 enOehT :
said by vpoko See Profile :

education might actually help them?
Indeed education might help them. They need all the help they can get.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055700 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:36:04 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055659 vpoko :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead?
If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them? Or is the only way to deal with beggars and drug users to lock them up (or torture them, you seem to like torture).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055659 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:27:51 EDT Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055557 enOehT : You are darn right Wilkes-Barre has more serious problems.

WiFi should not be on the top of their list of things to address.

I would be surprised if anyone would even use WiFi there. The literacy rate there is abysmal as is poverty and lack of education.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055557 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:11:44 EDT Wilkes Barre has more serious problems http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15055534 pnh102 : Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead?
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