Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... in Rogers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15086610 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:54:28 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:54:28 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15110249 dontbugme1 : Just verified with express. You are abs correct. The D/L is around 358 KB/s with 8 connections (newshosting.com). This forum has been a source of very useful info or me. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15110249 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:10:09 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15108416 kamm : Some help for starters... :)

Free search and NZBs:
»www.binsearch.info ot www.binsearch.net as well as the following sites:
»usenetsearch.nl or »usenetsearch.net
»alt.binaries.nl

You can put together your own nzbs - online and free.:)
If you're too lazy to do it, you may want to check out these sites:
»www.dvdrs.net
»nzb.antido.com
»nzb-files.nl.nu
»nzbzone.com

NZB Leecher:
»pizza.sohosted.com/nzb_leecher/m···cation=2

Providers
In the cheap range there's www.100proofnews.com prices: 100GB/mo for $9/mo or unlimited traffic for $13/mo - both subscription comes with at least 9-10 simultaneous connections - sometimes higher, sometimes lower, no hard limit (probably depends on that particluar server load - they have east, west and europe servers) but speed is pretty good, at least ~5Mbit usually but rather higher. Retention isn't the best though, between 25-30 days in most binary groups. Generally speaking this is the very minimum nowadays for retention - don't even bother yourself checking out any provider with lower than 25-30 days.
Free trial is available upon request.

Best of the best is Giganews, of course: $24/mo and unlimited on 10 connections and will max out your line speed, I guarantee you, no matter it's a 15Mb/s or higher pipe you're sitting on. They have two cheaper price but both are traffic-limited ones. :D However their retention is crazy: 70 days!!! :o:o:D This is the best NSP money can buy. All acounts come with a 3 days trial period.

Between two there's newshosting.com, unlimited for $15/mo w/ 40 days retention but 8 connections only (they also have plenty of traffic based package). Ask for free trial and you'll get it - some 24-48 hrs w/ 1GB traffic limit should be enough to test their speed and see their retention ingroups you'll be interested.)
This is probably the best of both worlds.

News clients (Windows only):

I think the two best client are Newsleecher and Usenet Explorer.

First is a professional leecher with built-in supersearch function - this sw not free but cheap, license allows you to run it both on your work and home machines and it's features really worth the price (some $20-30, depending supersearch is included or not) and backed by an active forum community including the developer: »www.newsleecher.com
A 30-days trial is available for download.
Second is an advanced client, with anonymous posting included, perhaps a little bit less beginner-friendly and less nicely designed but less resource hungry (NL is a memory hog, so older machines will suffer when one activates a dozen of large groups at once)too, with more features, so a great sw as well and also ccomes for cheap: »www.netwu.com/ue/
15-days trial is available for download.

The best free client is probably Ozum, though it was buggy when I last time tested: »www.ozinsight.com

Ah and a forever link for Usenet binaries: »www.binaries4all.com/

;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15108416 Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:32:23 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15107665 alexpb1 : all i could find on them

Provider: Newsguy (»newsguy.com)
Cost Range(monthly): $5.95 - $14.95
Retention(Average): 15 Days
Web Interface: Yes
Free Headers: No
Anonymous Posting: No
Msg-ID Support: Unknown]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15107665 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:59:54 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15106755 salan :
said by Peterg1 See Profile :

I would add that newsguy is also having an offer for Rogers subscribers:

»www.newsguy.com/

Peter
1. whats their retention?
2. will they allow you to cancel an account when the free month is over ?

they barely have any info about their service... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15106755 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:14:07 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15106266 Peterg1 : I would add that newsguy is also having an offer for Rogers subscribers:

»www.newsguy.com/

Peter]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15106266 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:43:11 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15105472 Plasticman : Well I am not with Rogers but I do use Usenetserver and I have been very happy with it. Especially the unlimited download limit and they have been able to max my bw out. Once in a great while I see some connection issues but they resolve it right away and are constantly upgrading thier equipment to be top of the line. for what they offer and the retention time of on average of 37 plus days with an average of about 97 % completion rate for some of the more popular groups like dvd, erotica, sounds.mp3 and the availability of par2 files..... 15 bucks a month is a damm good price for what they offer....

Plasticman
--
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill today because they pissed me off]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15105472 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:12:42 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15104634 sbrook :
said by dontbugme1 See Profile :

Thanks for the insight. I will try again with another site in Scarborough (Markham Rd./Sheppard area) where Express is available and check back on your theory with Newshosting. As mentioned earlier, when I was with Rogers's Express and Giganews (two connections), the D/L was at 60KB/s and not 384KB/s results from two different locations (Scarborough at Warden/Finch and Markham at (McCowan/HWY407). :D
When you had express and used the *unpaid* services with giganews that Rogers set up, the limit of 60Kbytes/second was imposed by giganews on the basis of what Rogers was willing to pay for. They paid for a max of 2 32kbytes/sec streams from giganews.

In other words, your speed from the news server is the lesser of your line speed, or the speed from the news server itself. You can't get any more aggregate speed than your actual line speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15104634 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:28:16 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15104601 dontbugme1 : Thanks for the insight. I will try again with another site in Scarborough (Markham Rd./Sheppard area) where Express is available and check back on your theory with Newshosting. As mentioned earlier, when I was with Rogers's Express and Giganews (two connections), the D/L was at 60KB/s and not 384KB/s results from two different locations (Scarborough at Warden/Finch and Markham at (McCowan/HWY407). :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15104601 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:22:47 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103979 sbrook : dontbugme ...

Your maximum speed with lite is 384k bits per second. That is the same as 48k Bytes per second. That's the absolute fastest data can come down to you.

Before you were on express with a max speed of 3000kbits per second which is the same as 375k bytes per second.

With express the total of the data in however many streams you set up could not exceed 375kbytes/sec .... so 2 giganews streams would only use 64 kbytes/sec max.

So, you changed to newshosting which allows up to 8 simultaneous connections ... but because of your max line speed, if you were running all 8 simultaneously, you'd still max out at 48kbytes/sec ... or about 6kbytes/sec per stream. If you ran 6 simultaneous streams, you get 8bytes/sec per stream. If you ran 4 simultaneous streams you get 12kbytes/sec per stream, if you ran 2 streams, you get 24kbytes/sec per stream.

If you changed back to Express with newshosting, you'd be getting 375kbytes/sec ... and with 8 streams that would be about 46Kbytes/sec per stream

You can't exceed Rogers line rate no matter how many streams you're using.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103979 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:10:28 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103460 dontbugme1 : In response to Roop's "i've never had them completly down but when they are having issues, speeds drop to around 200kbytes/sec." How you manage to get this speed"? I use port 119 on the "unlimited" plan and I only get 47 KB/s for all my 8 concurrent connections using the Rogers Lite. When with Rogers' Express it was 60 KB/s restricted to only 2 connections. TIA :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103460 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:16:51 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103448 dontbugme1 : With Express, my D/L speed (for newsgroup) was 60 KB/s and restricted to 2 connections after Rogers switched over to Giganews. Prior to that it was 300 KB/s and 4 to 6 connections so that's why I downgraded to the Lite as Rogers was "squeezing" on the speed. I am in Scarborough and one of my friend in Markham still on Express is getting D/L 60 KB/s and 2 connections. Wonder any one else is having a similar connection speed though my speed check cable broadband test is at advertised 384 kbs and before that with Express I was getting 3 Mbs . So it is not hilarious and I am not laughing. I decided not to switch over to 3Web because getting a live "voice" or receiving an email response is like winning a lottery jackpot as their tech support seems non existence (athough I have my phone LD with them them for over 2 years).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103448 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:08:51 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103269 alexpb1 : lolol why would you buy a newsgroup subscription if you can only max out at 48kb/s? and you're paying more in the end and your overall speed is crap...hilarious.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15103269 Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:48:48 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15102302 PHLN :
said by dontbugme1 See Profile :

:)Hi all, I had downgraded from Rogers cable Express ($44.95) to Lite ($34.95), save $10 and signed up with Newshosting @ US$14.95 per month unlimited with 8 connections but D/L speed steady at 47 KB/s. When with Rogers- Express(Giganews), D/L speed was around 60KB/s and limited to 2 concurrent connections. Overall very satisfied with Newshosting- recommended highly and you get instant signup without any delay. You just needs to reconfigure your newsreader (I am using Grabit Ver 1.5.3 Beta (Bilid 909)and life is back to normal except a few $s more every month. Worth it, if you cannot live without the newsgroups. LOL.
I hope you understand that your lower speed is because you are on Lite. Which capped you around 48 KB/s download, total.

If you were still on Express, your download speed should be around 370 KB/s area.

If you are on Extreme, it would be, nearly 700 KB/s. Which is where I am, also with Newshosting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15102302 Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:22:36 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15099232 dontbugme1 : :)Hi all, I had downgraded from Rogers cable Express ($44.95) to Lite ($34.95), save $10 and signed up with Newshosting @ US$14.95 per month unlimited with 8 connections but D/L speed steady at 47 KB/s. When with Rogers- Express(Giganews), D/L speed was around 60KB/s and limited to 2 concurrent connections. Overall very satisfied with Newshosting- recommended highly and you get instant signup without any delay. You just needs to reconfigure your newsreader (I am using Grabit Ver 1.5.3 Beta (Bilid 909)and life is back to normal except a few $s more every month. Worth it, if you cannot live without the newsgroups. LOL. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15099232 Sun, 25 Dec 2005 10:15:19 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15095741 anon : FYI, »flashnewsgroups.com/ is their subsidiary and they charge 12.95 a month. Slightly cheaper, and should be the same service. I would also like to get some feedback from current users of their service. I need to choose a provider in the new year.

Thanks~!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15095741 Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:47:46 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15091422 Roop : if you're concerned with your bandwidth especially when using providers with stupid amounts of retention, use nzbs. google "pizza" and nzb, and check their forums. also, check »beta.binaries.nl.

for those that don't know, nzb files enable nntp software with nzb support to download binaries without getting the headers first. this time consuming process can be as lenghtly as the downloads themselves since companies such as newshosting.com are unable to consistently send headers as fast as binaries.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15091422 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:52:01 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15090039 sbrook : There are lots of people who care about the cap are still with Rogers (like no other option for hispeed internet!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15090039 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:07:22 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15090010 anon : thanks. i thought so but wanted to make sure. i guess none of you care about the cap or you wouldn't be with Rogers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15090010 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:00:51 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15089593 aqualung40 :
said by superchap :

if i subscribe to newshosting.com, are those uploads/downloads counted towards my Rogers' cap?
Yes they are. Any traffic in or out of your modem counts towards the cap.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15089593 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:51:30 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15089572 anon : if i subscribe to newshosting.com, are those uploads/downloads counted towards my Rogers' cap?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15089572 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:48:20 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15087812 Roop : i still recommend newshosting.com
unlimited for $15 USD ($18CAD) a month.

they keep getting better. i've had them for about a year now. every month or so they increase retention. speed is always great and maxes out my 6mbits unless they are having problems. i've never had them completly down but when they are having issues, speeds drop to around 200kbytes/sec.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15087812 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:55:53 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15086610 salan : giganews has.. but its not that great. 50% of the first month while usenetsever is doing 50% off 2 months.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15086610 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:35:23 EDT Re: Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15085695 KyeU : Very smart Marketing move; I haven't seen other Newsgroup Providers offer a special deal to the abandoned Usenet Rogers Customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15085695 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:45:49 EDT Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15085675 alexpb1 : I apologize if this has been posted, but i noticed this today and thought i'd let you guys know.



I personally don't use this company, as i already have a different one i'm content with, but i thought many of you would be interested.

Also, anyone who has used this news provider, could you give any insight on how the service is?

Thanks,

Alex]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15085675 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:36:33 EDT