Would ISPs Quarantine You for Insecure Software? > quarantine

reply to rob_in_chatt

Re: quarantine

There will never be a lawsuit, as software companys are not liable.
Why? A few reasons.
1) THE EULA that YOU AGREED TO when you installed their software. It releases them from any liability.
2) IF somehow you managed to hold software companies liable, making software wouldnt be profitable, and they simply wouldnt do it. You would not be able to afford a copy of windows, for 20,000$, if microsoft had to defend itself from lawsuits about crappy code.

There is no such thing as bug free code. Its simply impossible, and has never been done before. All code is writen by humans, and is inherently flawed for that reason. DO NOT blame software engineers for poor code, blame their teachers. Many USA Taught coders are not proficient, as their schools never taught that aspect. Only in the last few years have they even THOUGHT about offering courses in SECURE CODING PRACTICES.

In the end who becomes the teachers? Thats right, the coders that arent good enough to find real work. This means your being taught by the guy that did poorly, and he was taught by the guy that did poorly, etc etc we are in the 3rd iteration of crappy teachers in this country in MANY areas for that reason. There will ALWAYS be exceptions however overall this seems to be the story at most schools.

Lets recap: Holding software engineers and companies liable for buggy software is a terrible idea. The price would skyrocket, you couldnt afford it, nobody would risk writing software, and most importantly ITS YOUR CHOICE TO RUN THAT PARTICULAR SOFTWARE. You accept PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY for the software you CHOOSE to run. The company out there is NOT FORCING you to use their product, so if you dont like it, go grab the latest copy of a competing product.

I agree with you there...
All software has bugs (some may be percieved as 'limitations', others as 'features').

I do wonder what the take on open source would be

reply to nosx
Microsoft don't write "crappy" code. Its just that with 95% of desktop market-share, its hard for it to not be a target.
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What I used to be I no longer am... God, why can't you freeze time for my sake?

are you f*cking kidding me!?!?!? the problem is that they have 95% of the market share so they don't care how crappy the pos o.s they write is. If it works it will sell. Tell me the RPC buffer overflow vulnerability wasnt due to crappy code. you clearly have NO idea what you are talking about. Maybe if they lost some of their market share they would clean up their act a little bit.