Re: How are they going to enforce this ? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15206756 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:51:06 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:51:06 EDT Re: How are they going to enforce this ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15208191 calvoiper : I was answering in part based on earlier comments that these terms applied to any end user of voice Qwest services, not just those purchasing DSL from Qwest. Upon a quick scan of the underlying document, however, I don't see this restriction, and I'm unclear how this would apply to CLEC customers, unless a CLEC is just reselling the whole Qwest data service and incorporating the terms of Qwest's documents.

calvoiper
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VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15208191 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:01:27 EDT Re: How are they going to enforce this ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15206756 AthlGrond :
said by calvoiper See Profile :

said by AthlGrond See Profile :

... as CLECs provide their own line to the customer.
Sometimes they do, but often, particularly in a residential context, they don't--they just lease the loop from the ILEC (Qwest.)
If the CLEC is using Qwest's lines will they be using Qwest's ATM Equipment at the CO too? If yes, then Qwest has a legitimate involvement in saying how it's ATM equipment gets used.

If not, then why would the CLEC be using Qwest's AUP?
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You are now free to paint your hair wild colors and run around naked. -dg2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15206756 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:01:01 EDT Re: How are they going to enforce this ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15206708 calvoiper :
said by AthlGrond See Profile :

... as CLECs provide their own line to the customer.
Sometimes they do, but often, particularly in a residential context, they don't--they just lease the loop from the ILEC (Qwest.)

calvoiper
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VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15206708 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:53:37 EDT Re: How are they going to enforce this ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15205430 AthlGrond : This does not affect CLECs, as CLECs provide their own line to the customer.
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You are now free to paint your hair wild colors and run around naked. -dg2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15205430 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:52:50 EDT How are they going to enforce this ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15204287 XBL2009 : It isn't their network resources being used so why would spam matter to them or servers or WiFI ?

Would they not have to spy on CLEC and what is being transmitted and recieved ?

They should mind their own business. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15204287 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:35:07 EDT