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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  timcuth <A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>And here's one I probably didn't do enough with. :hmm:<br><br>(Original is on the left)<br><br>Tim<br> </DIV>I tried again and got more aggressive. This one is not split.<br><br>Tim<br><SMALL>--<br><I>I'm up on a tightrope. One side's fear and one is hope. - Leon Russell</I></SMALL><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15275850?c=954550&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="283986 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/954550.thumb600~a9d08009c738dea84e4a24abfa422cbc/img_1690_lab2.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A><br>Off the Oregon coast</TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : And here's one I probably didn't do enough with. :hmm:<br><br>(Original is on the left)<br><br>Tim<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15274906?c=954503&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="206463 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/954503.thumb600~cf9c2ffd54c390a12ee14305744dc8da/IMG_1690_split.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:56:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : Here's one I probably went too far with. ;)<br><br>Tim<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15274853?c=954498&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="1095221 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/954498.thumb600~0a27b10cb02ce590bc09aaa6b8b67b10/dscn4509_split.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A><br>Mammoth Dome Sink (KY)</TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  35375105 <A HREF="/useremail/u/724042"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br> That's actually close to what the sky was, if I remember. The sun was setting so it was an orangish color, not as blue as midday.<br> </DIV>Okay. :)<br><br>Tim<br><SMALL>--<br><I>I'm up on a tightrope. One side's fear and one is hope. - Leon Russell</I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1018019"><b>pog</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  timcuth <A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>The sky is "prettier" in the second one, but the color looks fake. I am looking out a window as I view your two samples and the color is much truer to the actual sky in your first one.<br><br>Tim<br> </DIV>I don't think most of us here are trying to recreate reality in our work... sometimes we have a mood we're after, or want to bring out some kind of utopian view of the scene, etc ...IOW, make a new reality.  (I forget the quotes, but many others have said this more eloquently).<br><br>However for my tastes, I do think a little too much saturation got introduced in the clouds... which may have pushed certain parts out of gamut.  Still, that's quibbling on my part. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:57:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/724042"><b>35375105</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  timcuth <A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>The sky is "prettier" in the second one, but the color looks fake. I am looking out a window as I view your two samples and the color is much truer to the actual sky in your first one.<br><br>Tim<br> </DIV>That's actually close to what the sky was, if I remember. The sun was setting so it was an orangish color, not as blue as midday.<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/gregoryd/index">Amateur Stuff</A> :-)</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:51:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : The sky is "prettier" in the second one, but the color looks fake. I am looking out a window as I view your two samples and the color is much truer to the actual sky in your first one.<br><br>Tim<br><SMALL>--<br><I>I'm up on a tightrope. One side's fear and one is hope. - Leon Russell</I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:02:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/724042"><b>35375105</b></A> : Another one using almost the same steps as my image above.<br><br>First is original second is after.<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/gregoryd/index">Amateur Stuff</A> :-)</SMALL><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15270142?c=954271&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="322358 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=399 SRC="/r0/download/954271.thumb600~17ed2669225fdad12435dd16fa07efd4/IMG_7626_HDR.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15270142?c=954272&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="499625 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=399 SRC="/r0/download/954272.thumb600~478f09388e28de5e6317de98aaae810c/IMG_7626_HDR2.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:40:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  WaxPhoto <A HREF="/useremail/u/986098"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Open your edit.  Go to File>Open As Layer.  Select the original unedited photo.  [You may need to resize this layer to fit the edited one]  Select half of the image, pick the eraser, set the brush to the biggest one (probably galaxy) and erase that half.  Voila.  :)<br> </DIV>See, now I am learning another new technique! :)<br><br>Tim<br><SMALL>--<br><I>I'm up on a tightrope. One side's fear and one is hope. - Leon Russell</I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:48:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/724042"><b>35375105</b></A> : Here's an edit of my waterfall pic. First is original (resized down to 800) and second is after post-processing.<br><br>Here's what I did:<br><br><B>1)</B> Converted to LAB.<br><B>2)</B> Opened curves.  <br><B>3)</B> Adjusted "lightness" curves until I got good shadow/highlights.<br><B>4)</B> Steepened the "A" channel curves and steepened the "B" channel curves to give a lot more color.<br><B>5)</B> Went to Image->Apply image.  I Set the blend mode to overlay and the channel to "A".  "A" channel worked well for this image since the A channel brings out the orange and greens like velvia film.  "B" channel didn't work good because it turned my greens to the color orange. "LAB" channel gave too much contrast for my tastes.<br><B>6)</B> Sharpened it using this technique: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,15267838">Re: [FYI] Sharpening Tutorial</A><br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/gregoryd/index">Amateur Stuff</A> :-)</SMALL><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15270027?c=954251&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="330133 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=399 SRC="/r0/download/954251.thumb600~bc8348dcba4094293249b0f9e9b4d005/IMG_5113_original.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15270027?c=954252&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="508538 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=399 SRC="/r0/download/954252.thumb600~fc4bb3dd7ce4f899696d2a9a2f1bcb27/IMG_5113.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:04:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><b>Edit This</b></A> : The man who brings LAB to the masses.........will rule the world. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:39:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1018019"><b>pog</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Edit This <A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>An even better method is to go into lAB and then Curve. Adjust the "a" and "b" channels and lastly the "lightness" channel. Can be tricky but also can produce amazing results.<br> </DIV>Hmmm.... I smell my next plugin!  Bring Lab to the masses!<br><br>Converting to Lab is a snap.  Coding customizable curves might well be beyond me, though... maybe I'll start off with your other simpler method.  The math for overlaying is basically a one-liner. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:33:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><b>Edit This</b></A> : An even better method is to go into LAB and then Curve. Adjust the "a" and "b" channels and lastly the "lightness" channel. Can be tricky but also can produce amazing results.<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.jvKZLbMRIsG/b.594849/k.CC7C/Home.htm">I post therefore I am.</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:07:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/396680"><b>samburgers</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Edit This <A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  samburgers <A HREF="/useremail/u/396680"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>(btw, I tried using it in RBG mode and looks like the same thing with LAB mode.. do I really have to switch to LAB mode?)<br> </DIV><B>It works better in LAB. For reason WAY too technical for me to understand.</B> :)<br><br><A HREF="http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.jvKZLbMRIsG/b.594849/k.CC7C/Home.htm">I post therefore I am.</A></SMALL><br> </DIV> WAY better? I don't  notice it! I am going blind! :P<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.sldesigns.ca/photoblog/">Photoblog</A> & <A HREF="/pics/dimaging/396680">Photos</A><BR>--<BR>Find ET ... <A HREF="/forum/seti">SETI@Home</A><BR>Find Cancer Cure ... <A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><b>Edit This</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  samburgers <A HREF="/useremail/u/396680"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote">(btw, I tried using it in RBG mode and looks like the same thing with LAB mode.. do I really have to switch to LAB mode?)<br> </DIV><B>It works better in LAB. For reason WAY too technical for me to understand.</B> :)<br><br><A HREF="http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.jvKZLbMRIsG/b.594849/k.CC7C/Home.htm">I post therefore I am.</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:56:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/396680"><b>samburgers</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Edit This <A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Open in PS > Image > mode > LAB. Image > Apply Image > Overlay > 35%. Sharpen in LAB and RGB using this technique: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,15267838">Re: [FYI] Sharpening Tutorial</A>.<br> </DIV>I've been using that technique ever since you posted it!! It works great!<br><br>(btw, I tried using it in RBG mode and looks like the same thing with LAB mode.. do I really have to switch to LAB mode?)<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.sldesigns.ca/photoblog/">Photoblog</A> & <A HREF="/pics/dimaging/396680">Photos</A><BR>--<BR>Find ET ... <A HREF="/forum/seti">SETI@Home</A><BR>Find Cancer Cure ... <A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:44:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/385510"><b>Edit This</b></A> : Open in PS > Image > mode > LAB. Image > Apply Image > Overlay > 35%. Sharpen in LAB and RGB using this technique: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,15267838">Re: [FYI] Sharpening Tutorial</A>.<br>[att=1]<br>I could have done much more.....but.....just keeping it basic.<br><SMALL>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.jvKZLbMRIsG/b.594849/k.CC7C/Home.htm">I post therefore I am.</A></SMALL><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15269321?c=954210&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="306105 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=400 SRC="/r0/download/954210.thumb600~913a5ff8c9bccdb4cc486c9c5c4ba19a/labscs.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:02:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/986098"><b>WaxPhoto</b></A> : Open your edit.  Go to File>Open As Layer.  Select the original unedited photo.  [You may need to resize this layer to fit the edited one]  Select half of the image, pick the eraser, set the brush to the biggest one (probably galaxy) and erase that half.  Voila.  :)<br><SMALL>--<br>To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle.  -George Orwell</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:43:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/203572"><b>timcuth</b></A> : I have a few I would like to post, but I don't know how to do the side-by-side thing. :huh:<br><br>Tim<br><SMALL>--<br><I>I'm up on a tightrope. One side's fear and one is hope. - Leon Russell</I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:35:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/986098"><b>WaxPhoto</b></A> : Post your LAB edits side-by-side, like the example above.  Tell what LAB technique you used.<br><br>For the above example: In GIMP: LAB curve steepening on A&B channels, 7 pixel Gauissian Blur (@3008x2000) on A&B channels.  S-Curve and a little USM on L channel.<br><br>[Note: In Gimp, LAB 'channels' are treated as seperate <I>layers.</I>]<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/15268390?c=954155&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxNTI2ODM5MC54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="154666 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=400 SRC="/r0/download/954155.thumb600~c77ec0ae19fb6f488e3aed3c9c757c77/LABcomparison.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:57 EDT</pubDate>
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