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bbrlogue
Learning New Things Daily
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join:2003-12-07
Alexandria, VA

Zero tolerance

They shouldn't exclude spams from infection. Perhaps they could limit the exclusion to the first 48- or 72-hr after the infection, but then if the computer is left unpatched after a warning, a fine would be assessed. This is similar to your lost credit card/ATM policy.

Users should be responsible for an infection due to negligence or lack of efforts in maintaining their own computer security.

For the regular users, an ISP could then offer an additional service level for a fee, in which the ISP would maintain the security patches, etc (a la corporate networks), and those who are at this service level would be immune to the fine if it was indeed caused by an infection.

I understand that there is no panachea. Even on a corporate network that is maintained by a big-3-letter company, it took weeks for them to clean up some infected storefront computers that kept sending spam to my internal corporate inbox.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Well there is this...»pack.google.com/

What gets me is Qwest offers the MSN premium service as part of one of their service packages MSN includes a very good security suite. There is really no excuse for Zombies except for the ignorance of the user. Because of this I think security packages should be a part of any ISP's service package.
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danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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join:2002-03-02
Urbandale, IA

"What gets me is Qwest offers the MSN premium service as part of one of their service packages MSN includes a very good security suite. There is really no excuse for Zombies except for the ignorance of the user. Because of this I think security packages should be a part of any ISP's service package."

I'm a Qwest user, and that security suite will never, ever touch my machine. Nor will Google's. Hell, half of the stuff Google includes in that pack is stuff I will never allow to be installed on one of my machines again - Google Desktop and Norton being the main two. In the case of the MSN Premium pack, they can shove McAfee where the sun doesn't shine. That consistently deleted my FTP server while it was running without my permission when I tried it on my system. Some security software does more harm than good for those of us who know what we're doing.

I don't do things that are going to get me deliberately infected with crap in the first place (shady surfing, e-mail) but I don't like the thought that Qwest could charge me $5 per spam if something (god-willing) did happen to my machine and it started spewing crap. Broadband isn't one of those things anymore that should be considered such a luxury to assume someone who subscribes could afford $5 per spam if they got infected. There are better solutions, starting with teaching people HOW to keep their systems clean in the first place so that they don't need 800 pieces of security software that are just irritating and bog down the system in much the same way as a virus might. Norton started giving me BSODs on a daily basis back in 2003 - I honestly think I'd rather be unknowingly slinging spam around the internet than experience that again.
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