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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

Escalating Arms Race

We are really awaiting a OS release that will give us more knobs and tweaks then what we have now.
and We(paying customers) are really awaiting release of new bittorrent clients/protocols which include encryption that will break all your fucking "knobs and tweaks".
what will end up happening is, you, idiots, will drive everybody into using complete darknets like freenet and waste and next generation networks(it's name escapes me now). so all you'll see are streams random data, and you won't be able to fuck around with application protocols.
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sherman06810

join:2000-10-15
Danbury, CT
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It doesn't matter if you enrypt all of your traffic. If p2p traffic just becomes generic traffic, they will still manage it. Every packet that travels over their network they have complete control over.

The ISP's are trying to classify and manage p2p traffic so that "regular" traffic such as web browsing, email, etc feels faster than the rest. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a very small percentage of cusomters consume a large percentage of an ISP's traffic.

At the end of the day, if you want guaranteed bandwidth 24/7/365, pay for a business-class service.

- Sherman



Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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reply to MxxCon

said by MxxCon:

We are really awaiting a OS release that will give us more knobs and tweaks then what we have now.
and We(paying customers) are really awaiting release of new bittorrent clients/protocols which include encryption that will break all your fucking "knobs and tweaks".
what will end up happening is, you, idiots, will drive everybody into using complete darknets like freenet and waste and next generation networks(it's name escapes me now). so all you'll see are streams random data, and you won't be able to fuck around with application protocols.
Encryption won't break their "knobs and tweaks", there has to be routing information in the TCP/UDP header and there is always "behavioral" traffic shaping. Encryption just encrypts the packet data, which is usually not what they use to perform QoS on traffic anyway.

IE: If your PC is opening 500 connections/second to 500 different IP address, you are probably running BitTorrent, we'll limit his device to 50 connections a second and forcibly close the rest.


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

said by Matt:

Encryption won't break their "knobs and tweaks", there has to be routing information in the TCP/UDP header and there is always "behavioral" traffic shaping. Encryption just encrypts the packet data, which is usually not what they use to perform QoS on traffic anyway.
since you don't use them, you probably don't know, but OOL is fucking around at application protocol level. they specifically handicap bittorrent seed hosts and mess around with edk upload connections.
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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
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said by MxxCon:

said by Matt:

Encryption won't break their "knobs and tweaks", there has to be routing information in the TCP/UDP header and there is always "behavioral" traffic shaping. Encryption just encrypts the packet data, which is usually not what they use to perform QoS on traffic anyway.
since you don't use them, you probably don't know, but OOL is fucking around at application protocol level. they specifically handicap bittorrent seed hosts and mess around with edk upload connections.
And? Encrypting the data still does nothing to the TCP Header, nor to the behavioral pattern of BitTorrent.

If you're throwing 500 connections a second to their router, they are going to know you're using P2P and limit you. Email, Web, FTP, VoIP, Gaming, it doesn't matter -- nothing "looks" like P2P traffic except P2P traffic.

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