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C0deZer0
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#2 said it best.

said by Number 2 from Austin Powers :
"don't you see? there are no nations anymore... it's all corporations."
that quote is becoming more true every day.:(


broadbander
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said by C0deZer0:

said by Number 2 from Austin Powers :
"don't you see? there are no nations anymore... it's all corporations."
that quote is becoming more true every day.:(
I think the militaries of the world would disagree agree with you.

When Walmart could beat the AU (a not particularly powerful, but still sizeable, centralized military force) without any government supports in a full-scale war, maybe I'll listen. Until then, military coalitions are certainly still holding the cards.


C0deZer0
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But the military forces of the world are run by politicians that have already been bought out by corporations.



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said by broadbander:

When Walmart could beat the AU (a not particularly powerful, but still sizeable, centralized military force) without any government supports in a full-scale war, maybe I'll listen.
I dunno. Them greeters can swing a mean shopping cart around.


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broadbander
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said by C0deZer0:

But the military forces of the world are run by politicians that have already been bought out by corporations.
In generally peaceable nations, often times, yes. But a trip to Latin America in the 80s, Spain in the 30s, or Africa now will prove that this is not inherently the case. When the generals begin to disagree with the politicians and the businessmen is when things get as bad as possible.

Back to topic, this lawsuit will hopefully be dismissed. If the makers of Starforce win this one, a very strange precedent for libel will be debased, and we will see lawsuits expanded. Heck, maybe I'd sue somebody! In order to win, the starforce makers must prove that their malware isn't malware. That's tough.


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The United States of America IS a corporation. The City of New York, has a Corporation Counsel, i.e. New York City's Legal Representative. Not to mention the US is covered by soviergn immunity.

If they believed that denotating a radioactive device on thier citizens, would protect them from terrorism, they have all the legal right to do it.

For reference, see Executive Order 13139
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Noah Vail
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Well, Clinton Said it and he was #1 at the time.

This is an Executive Order providing anti-toxins to military members who may have been or may be exposed to dangerous biologicals or chemicals. It also grants the right to use experimental remedies (on military personnel) that have been cleared by the FDA and authorized by the Secretary of Defense.
That is: to fast track a cure rather than let soldiers from a lack of it.

I'm certainly no fan of Clinton, but it looks like he did a good thing here.

How does this make us a Mc Country?

NV
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broadbander
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Re: #2 said it best.

The United States of America IS a corporation.
Interesting, albeit, flawed take. The United States supersedes corporations. If the U.S. government is a corporation (I semantic distinction at best) than ALL governments for ALL times have been corporations, and furthermore, all councils that involve groups of people are corporations. If this is your definition of corporation its particularly opaque and not quite useful.

One need only look at the national debt to know if the United States is a corporation. Its not. The U.S. may have some vested corporate interests, but the government itself is not a corporation. If it were, wouldn't it have nationalized all industry for its own profit by now?

If they believed that denotating a radioactive device on thier citizens, would protect them from terrorism, they have all the legal right to do it.
How is this relevant? And who are "they?" And in what circumstances would this be allowed and how many people are required to authorize its allowance? Hypothetics are not so valuable. If "they" wanted to, "they" could seize all of our money and take our children to sex camps and cut us up and sell our limbs to Peruvians. "They" haven't done any of this yet.

xrobertcmx
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Interesting idea, but then again what if Wal-Mart threatened to black list anyone who fought against them from ever shopping there again?
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mlundin

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Lawrence, KS

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The government does have its own nationalized industry. Its a service industry that polices your streets, and stops your house from burning down. It educates your children and prevents foreign invasion. It maintains national parks. I could go on and on. What would be profit (currently debt) comes from taxes but is redistributed to the people. Corporations need not be for profit to be a corporation, there are plenty out there labeled "not for profit organizations". After all, why do you think they call towns with administrative governments "incorporated" and those without "unincorporated"?



broadbander
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said by mlundin:

The government does have its own nationalized industry. Its a service industry that polices your streets, and stops your house from burning down. It educates your children and prevents foreign invasion. It maintains national parks. I could go on and on. What would be profit (currently debt) comes from taxes but is redistributed to the people. Corporations need not be for profit to be a corporation, there are plenty out there labeled "not for profit organizations". After all, why do you think they call towns with administrative governments "incorporated" and those without "unincorporated"?
So then all administrative bodies are to be understood as corporations?

Of course the government has some nationalized industry, but if it were a corporation, then why not nationalize all of them, given its power to do so? If most corporations could monopolize every aspect of their particular sector, wouldn't they want to do it?

These distinctions are merely semantic.

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