Yeah but I like it in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15369973 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:21:19 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:21:19 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15377926 cdw5510 : Its only 53k by standards.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15377926 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:27:43 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15375871 cdru :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

said by cdru See Profile :

If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
Wow! - that was, well... reaching.
I'm not going to argue with that. And I'd never argue that 56K was broadband or FiOS isn't. I was just tossing my .02 worth into the argument as to "what's broadband?" debate.

One of the strict TECHNICAL definition of broadband is the transmission of data across multiple frequencies. Ever heard of 10broad36 as compared to 10baseT? One uses a range of frequencies (broad) and one uses a single (base). But both still transmit at 10mbits.

But over time the definition has morphed into other meanings, that, while maybe stretching what the original definition meant, basically indicates a high speed internet connection. But just saying "high speed" still is still arbitrary as shimonmor See Profile pointed out above.

Me personally, I say anything faster then 128K ISDN can be considered broadband. And it probably wouldn't take much to convince me that it could be raised to 256k these days.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15375871 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:01:55 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15375293 fiberguy :
said by cdru See Profile :

If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
Wow! - that was, well... reaching. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15375293 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:47:53 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15371625 Fluker : libraries are (from what I understand) paid for with tax dollars and they enable access to volumes of information.

Internet access, though used in a more private way, seems to do the same. It could be argued that 56k is good enough, but usually true 53k connections only happen on lines that are already nice enough that dsl is available. Most rural areas have only pair gained lines that allow 28.8 if you are fortunate. 28.8 can be very tiresome when it takes 20+ seconds per page if there are average graphics. do-able, but not cool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15371625 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:19:52 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15371436 anon : " Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy?"

You are comparing one wonderful thing with basic infrastructure that facilitates a great many things. The government doesn't subsidize every activity or application or service that takes place on the net, nor should it. This doesn't mean that the government shouldn't be making sure that basic infrastructure, that is an important part of modern economic life, gets to everyone, including those that the market has decided are not worth serving. The government has, in the past, seen that it has an important role in such infrastructure development, whether it be roads, universal electrification, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15371436 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:13:24 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370544 cdru : If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370544 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:53:49 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370489 Karl Bode : FCC's definition is 200kbps...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370489 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:47:14 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370366 nonner9 : 128kb is the definition of broadband given by some gov't agency (fcc maybe?)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370366 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:34:14 EDT Re: Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370347 shimonmor :
said by Fluker See Profile :

To me it would seem that 128k is a necessity.
What about 56k? Your 128k number is way to arbitrary.

said by Fluker See Profile :

The internet is a great resource and can be very empowering for a growing mind in need of information
It sure can be. But that doesn't make it a necessity. The library can be even more empowering because it gets you off your butt and into the real world. Also those tapes of Mozart they make for babies can be wonderful for growing minds too. Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15370347 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:31:55 EDT Yeah but I like it http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15369973 Fluker : To me it would seem that 128k is a necessity. The internet is a great resource and can be very empowering for a growing mind in need of information

Anything beyond that is a luxury. Multimedia is fun but by no means necessary. Maybe schools and libraries "need" broadband simply to serve up decent page load times to a larger number of people. But aside from that, staying connected doesn't mean requiring a big pipe. Just as transportation doesn't mean owning a Lexus.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15369973 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:43:15 EDT