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RayW
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Sort of old news

The FBI has been doing that with generic John Doe warrants for a LONG time.

As far as the right or wrong about it, I know of two cases where information from what some people are calling illegal access stopped what could have been a messy incident.

But, do we want that level of scrutiny in our free country? Do we even have a free country after the 20 or 30 years of Dems and Repubs? Are people allowed to even defend themselves anymore to make that scrutiny uncalled for?

As an obscure writer wrote in the 1700's:
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

The question is, are we REALLY still free? Or has Congress legislated us into serfdom? (just try shooting the punks striping your car because the cops are tied up with a murder, a fire, and a 5 car accident and they know that they out number you and the cops will not be there in time to do any good)
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Spudge_Boy

join:2004-09-17
Orange, CA

As an obscure writer wrote in the 1700's:
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

That obscure writer was Ben Franklin


RayW
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Re: Sort of old news

said by Spudge_Boy:

As an obscure writer wrote in the 1700's:
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

That obscure writer was Ben Franklin
As the drunk pointed out, Franklin most likely did not pen that but supposedly another person by the name of Richard Jackson in a letter to the Governor of Pennsylvania did. If I lived in Boston I know where I could go to get more details, but for now it is just one of those items that make up the American Mythos.

I always thought is Ben too, but I had an instructor who caused an uproar in class by saying Ben did not do it, and had some convincing proof. Thus it stuck with me. The name Jackson does not ring a bell, but several net sources (if you can trust them) did have his name and to whom it was written to. Your research may vary.
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