| Google can fight back! All Google needs to do is to threaten to block these ISPs' IP addresses in retaliation, thus denying them service. If my ISP were blocked by Google, I would switch in no time because Google is the most valuable service on the Internet for me. The ISPs have the right to introduce multi-tiered network with different QoS on different tiers. Content providers like Google have the right to fight back. The same thing will happen to VoIP. Telcos and Cablecos will eventually put Vonage and other VoIP providers on a lower tier and will use a better-QoS tier for their own VoIP offering. Then, it will be time for the consumers to decide what to do about it. If Telco and Cableco's VoIP offering is competitive with Vonage et al, the consumers may decide to switch to their ISP's VoIP, but if the service is not competitive, the consumers may switch to another ISP that doesn't impede non-ISP VoIP. The competition will decide which way this is going to go. However, it's true that for VoIP to function on par with POTS, QoS tiering will be necessary to give VoIP traffic priority across the network, which must involve a certain degree of cooperation among Tier-1 ISPs. In the end, if the free competition is allowed to reign, consumers will win. |
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| Google should join forces with the other large content companies. Sure, not being able to get to Google would be bad, but imagine if you couldn't get to Google, eBay, Yahoo, Amazon, etc. The telecos would quickly either reverse their positions or get lynched by customers and shareholders (the latter afraid of the inevitable customer loss and thus resulting revenue loss). Of course, knowing the telecos, they would just lobby Congress to pass buy legislation to require content providers to provide services to all ISPs equally. (Thus making the content providers' boycott illegal.)
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Livingston, NJ | Wonder why these telcos are only going after Google. What would happen if they go after sites like Apple's Itunes and Amazon. I could imagine if they block all customers from AT&T you would see a mass exodus from the Ipod crowd. |
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Bloomington, IN | I do not believe that they are only targeting Google, rather all content providers. Google comes up in discussion since it is the premiere web service. |
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This is a prime example of why countries like Korea, and Japan are killing us in this area. These Telco's want everything their own way, and have a battalion of lawyers to back them up. Indeed they are starting to act like Mafia, If you don't do it our way we will break your legs.
Instead of facilitating advancement they are an impediment.
What needs to be done is outfits like Google, Earthlink, and yes AOL, if they can get their heads out their own a$$holes, plus all other content providers need to get together in an trade organization and go to the various city and towns across the country and go into a partnership with them to build out local Muni's, of course the Telco's will scream, and whine, and sue. This is where an organization of content providers could play a key roll as a lobbying organization. There are far more content providers then Telco's so the power such an organization would have would be substantial. Heck all they would have to do to get Senator Kennedy's vote is to send in a porno star with a bottle of booze.
Cities have powers of emanate domain I wonder is this power could be translated into setting up needed networks with in a city. This issue isn't just so the gamers in town can have a fast connection this is fast becoming a vital part of a cities economic infrastructure.
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| said by Transmaster:Heck all they would have to do to get Senator Kennedy's vote is to send in a porno star with a bottle of booze. Well, all of those porn sites count as content providers so one could safely assume that at least a few would get on-board the "Content Provider Lobby" and would be able to send some senators some porn stars attractive female lobbyists.  (And "attractive male lobbyists" for the female legislators. Let's not forget about them. )
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Didn't you read the study released just yesterday? It showed that consumers were more than willing to put up with poor service and higher costs because the process of switching providers is to cumbersome and time consuming.
Think about how difficult it is to change from the monopolies now, not only do you have DSL contracts to contend with, but you'd have to change your local phone service, and soon your TV. Think about all the setup fees, down time, and other hassles.
These access fees are the perfect example of why you should not bundle and you should diversify your services so you are not wedded to anyone company.
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said by Shack: I do not believe that they are only targeting Google, rather all content providers. Google comes up in discussion since it is the premiere web service. Probably not so much that as it is Google's stock price is well over $300 a share even after taking a recent hit.
If you listen closely, you can hear a "ch-ching" sound in your dialtone.
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League City, TX | reply to sirozha
I don't think google will block a ISP there advertisers stock holders etc might not be happy imagine if they blocked comcast or some one large it wouldn't be fair to people who can only get one high speed ISP *like me* I would just simply write a letter contained the words "Don't like me then block me." |
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| Their other option is to put a header on all of their pages when accessed through one of the offending Telecos: "Does this site look slow? It's your ISPs fault. Click here to find out why." (With a link to a detailed explanation on the whole tiered Internet money grab and instructions on how to complain to your ISP and congressional representative.
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said by Jason Levine:said by Transmaster:Heck all they would have to do to get Senator Kennedy's vote is to send in a porno star with a bottle of booze. Well, all of those porn sites count as content providers so one could safely assume that at least a few would get on-board the "Content Provider Lobby" and would be able to send some senators some porn stars attractive female lobbyists. (And "attractive male lobbyists" for the female legislators. Let's not forget about them. ) Let's not forget about they who have doors that swing both ways as in,"attractive male lobbyists" for male
legislators and vice versa. 
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Atlanta, GA | reply to TelecomJunky2
said by TelecomJunky2:Think about how difficult it is to change from the monopolies now, not only do you have DSL contracts to contend with, but you'd have to change your local phone service, and soon your TV. ...if you bundle, which the unwashed masses often do but knowledgeable folks (who can't tolerate "lowest common denominator" services) don't. There's a reason I get POTS from one company, and DSL from another, and TV from another, and VoIP from several companies...
To me, the whole "one bill" idea is silly to begin with since ultimately I do write one check for all of the above services, and my cell phones, and even other things like utility bills and toll road usage -- it just goes to Citibank instead of BellSouth or Comcast.
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