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ITALIAN926

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vdsl sux

In 5-10 years , I think the CEO's of Quest, At&T and Bell South will be slapping themselves for not duplicating Verizons FiOS plans. So, so pathetic.
cptmiles
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Re: vdsl sux

Don't let Verizon's FIOS plans fool you. THE only reason they are doing FIOS is because their copper plants are in such bad shape they need replacement. They determined that even if they put in ADSL2+ or VDSL2 they still wouldn't have the plant to support it so they just jumped ahead and are collectively holding their breath that it works out.

FTTC with ADSL2+ then VDSL2 is actually a proper step to getting to a full FTTP application without taking huge risks like Verizon is doing.
ITALIAN926

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Don't let Verizon's FIOS plans fool you. THE only reason they are doing FIOS is because their copper plants are in such bad shape they need replacement. They determined that even if they put in ADSL2+ or VDSL2 they still wouldn't have the plant to support it so they just jumped ahead and are collectively holding their breath that it works out.

Ok, um, that makes no sense. Their copper plants are in the same shape as Quest, Bell South and AT&T. Some of the copper network in ALL those companies are the same wires from the old AT&T days. All the RBOC's have mainatained them properly since the breakup.. Verizon (NYNEX, GTE, Bell Atlantic) hasnt let their network go to hell any more than the others. The condition of the plant has NOTHING to do with their decision to deploy FiOS.

Having a customer with their own fiber optic line from CO to Prem is the ultimate plan with unlimited potential. Setting yourself up like a regular cable company with everyone sharing bandwidth at a node is the WRONG plan of action.

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FTTC with ADSL2+ then VDSL2 is actually a proper step to getting to a full FTTP application without taking huge risks like Verizon is doing.
Do you really think its a "huge risk" considering the people who are lucky enough to have FiOS on this site LOVE IT and give nothing but great reviews ? Its quite obvious FiOS will be extremely successful. The cable comapnies are wishfully thinking Verizon is taking a "huge risk"

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ITALIAN926

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Re: vdsl sux

Theres a reason why its called an INVESTMENT. Little by little, Verizon is replacing their copper network with FiOS.. Do any of these crybaby's have any idea how many BILLIONS per year Verizon spends in maintaining the copper network of wires? 3 Billion is chumpchange compared to their regular domestic telecom budget. There will be MUCH less maintainance to the fiber network. IMO , there really isnt much to be worried about long - term.
macken 657

join:2006-01-29
Ballwin, MO

Re: vdsl sux

obviously fiber is very expensive to run to each home, especially if all the customer wants is POTS, I think T has a better way only deploying FTTH in new construction and in older neighborhoods where aerial cable can be replaced. FTTN is the answer for exsisting areas with buried dedicated copper cable. IMO, the plan must be to compete with CATV, in all services ASAP

roamer1
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join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
said by ITALIAN926:

Ok, um, that makes no sense. Their copper plants are in the same shape as Quest, Bell South and AT&T. Some of the copper network in ALL those companies are the same wires from the old AT&T days.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find 75- or 100-year-old copper anywhere at all in Q or BLS territory, and anywhere in T territory other than San Francisco, Chicago, and maybe St. Louis, while it's pretty easy to find in VZ territory, especially in cities like NYC and Washington DC (in the District.)

The condition of the plant has NOTHING to do with their decision to deploy FiOS.
That I certainly agree with.

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