said by norwegian :

Well i'll be ! Uninstalled Windows Defender .... i thought why do i need a spyware program on active monitoring .... i have Windows Updates back again, go figure.

said by sajdgfbweieu :

Use the Windows Update website and you will get the updates for Defender.

said by Bobby_Peru :

I don't recall its install sufficiently to remember if it called out and downloaded more goodies at that point, but I thought it was the complete off line install version, except for updates, of course. Sorry to hear otherwise :( . Good luck with WD.

said by Bobby_Peru :

I don't know if this is different from what you have, but I have archived 1.0.614 MSAS-Install.exe "File Version: 9.0.333.0" @ 6,658KB, from 7/1/2006.

said by j2 :

Does anybody know where i could download Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta (1)?

said by dp :

Updates should continue until it expires at the end of July.

said by Le Boule :

:uhh:

Looks like I was quite wrong when I speculated there would be no further updates for Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta. It just updated and gave me definition file 5811. Think I'll keep it a while lomger while the kinks are worked out of Windows Defender.

:D

said by Lex Luthor :

Does it put the icon with the yellow ! mark in your system tray if you haven't performed a full scan recently?

I turned off the daily/weekly scan and will run manual scans, but I don't want the icon popping up all the time telling me I need to run a full scan.

I wasn't sure if the yellow ! was because it needed new defs or if it wanted me to run a full scan.

Which is it?

said by Le Boule :

:uhh:

Looks like I was quite wrong when I speculated there would be no further updates for Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta. It just updated and gave me definition file 5811. Think I'll keep it a while lomger while the kinks are worked out of Windows Defender.

:D

said by Le Boule :

:uhh:

Looks like I was quite wrong when I speculated there would be no further updates for Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta. It just updated and gave me definition file 5811. Think I'll keep it a while lomger while the kinks are worked out of Windows Defender.

:D

said by Le Boule :

AntiSpyware Beta is no longer listed on the Microsft Download page. There are apparently going to be no more updates for Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta. I presume keeping the present program is not an option unless we wish to use a program that is not current; it will be like using an anti-virus program that is out of date. So if we don't have antispyware as part of an anti-virus suite and want a "free" and current resident type ASW program we should switch to Windows Defender or purchase a program such as Spysweeper.

Am I correct in my interpretation?

:o

said by JammerMan79 :

Thanks for all of your input. I won't be upgrading just yet.

One this troubles me though. Le Boule's post is definitely interesting. Will MS be providing updates to anyone still using MS Antispyware?

said by SolarPup :

Okay, so after installing this... I try to update, and get this message: Windows Defender was unable to complete the update: 0x8024002b -- Tried the msiexec /x deal, tried uninstalling/reinstalling the whole defender thing.. still no work.. any ideas?

said by JammerMan79 :

After reading all these posts I'm still not sure what I should do.

Should I "upgrade" to defender from antispyware or not?

said by JammerMan79 :

After reading all these posts I'm still not sure what I should do.

Should I "upgrade" to defender from antispyware or not?

said by BrunoT :

I have the same problem with this error 0x800106ba.
How did you solve the problem ?

From the Tools option, you can access a variety of settings and tools (Figure). For example, you can configure when Windows Defender scans your system automatically (every day at 2:00 perhaps), and what it should do by default when it encounters different types of items (high alert items, medium alert items, and low alert items). The available tools have dropped significantly from the Giant Company Software releases, but that's in keeping with Microsoft's philosophy that this product should do one thing as well as possible, and not provide a kitchen sink's worth of functionality like its predecessor. You can view and restore quarantined items, view or change programs you've allowed to run, and access what's called the Software Explorer.

That last option is the most interesting. Here, you can view or modify system settings that are often very difficult to get at in a stock Windows system (Figure). For example, you can change the view to Currently Running Programs and get a nice look at what's going on in your PC, far nicer than the standard Task Manager view (Figure). Here's what I mean: In Task Manager, you'll often see numerous processes listed as svchost.exe, which is a Windows shell around executable DLLs, but never an explanation about what processes are hiding inside those shells. In Windows Defender's Software Explorer, those processes are identified as Microsoft Generic Host Process for Win32 Services, and you can see which processes are actually running inside them (under the Services heading). Suddenly those things don't seem so scary anymore.

said by greenhatch :

I got a sys tray icon again. All I have to do is not scan and it stays there, heh (It's a 'you did not scan for 3 days' nag).

said by Fishie :

Does WD expire every six months like MSAS?

said by La Luna :

I haven't updated from MSAS (too much funky stuff going on for my taste), and I got updates for it today, so it appears to still be working at least for now.

said by Indy Sabre :

So can we just keep MSAS and let it update until 7/31/06 (the exp. date)?

said by dadkins :

Do you have the Automatic Scans disabled?

said by dp :

Just noticed another little tidbit about the hidden tray icon. If you go a few days (3 in my case) without performing a scan, the tray icon will appear at boot. Doing a quick scan set it back into hiding.

said by ahulett :

Out of curiosity, did you try running

Msiexec /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

and then try updating it manually through the UI? (Help | About | Check for updates)

Thanks,

Aaron

Edit - Here's the KB article on this: »support.microsoft.com/Default.as···d=915105

said by Sikki :

I could never get the program to update...it would just spit out an error code. I even tried connecting straight to the net and not the router and it still wouldn't work. I finally just uninstalled it and downloaded CCleaner from the props it got on here and am very happy with that and Spyware Doctor.

said by Heshup :



Why would any one trust MS to protect their computer when MS can't build a OS that is secure?

I like Spy Sweeper. SpywareBlaster, NOD and Zone. I would trust them before I put any faith in MS.

It just be too funny.

said by kryptonian :

. Do any of you fine people know of any other programs that can do this?

said by kryptonian :

As I stated before, I'm a bit miffed that this latest version doesn't have the "tracks eraser" option that its predecessor did. I like to be able to erase all my auto-saved windows passwords and thats one of the main reasons I liked Microsoft's anti-spyware to begin with. Do any of you fine people know of any other programs that can do this?

said by Just Bob :

I just checked WU and saw that new definitions were available. I then tested manual update and found that you must exit the UI and re-start it to see the change. After the manual update I refreshed the WU page and new definitions were no longer available. Based on this I would say the manual update works just fine, but the UI doesn't update automatically.

said by madirish :

running Windows Defender on xphome sp2-no problems with the program but today (twice) I checked for updates manually and WD found nothing.Went to Windows Update and WU update said there are new defs for Defender.Checked manually for Defender updates and it found none.Installed the new defs from WU and they were new defs.Don't know why Defender didn't pick this up when I checked for updates manually.

:)

said by gate1975mlm :

Yunk is all I can say!

What in the world is Microsoft smoking?

Windows Defender is missing a lot of options that Microsoft Anti spyware has. And is ugly.

Seems like they down graded instead of up grading.

I am sticking with Microsoft Antispyware for now. Windows Defender looks like crap. :(

said by miketavares :

or at least an option to turn it on or off

said by gate1975mlm :

Yunk is all I can say!

What in the world is Microsoft smoking?

Windows Defender is missing a lot of options that Microsoft Anti spyware has. And is ugly.

Seems like they down graded instead of up grading.

I am sticking with Microsoft Antispyware for now. Windows Defender looks like crap. :(

said by HA Nut :

Unfortunately, none of this helps the XP user that still wants an icon or maintenance helpers. (And you can count me in on these things too!) FWIW, as mentioned somewhere else in this thread, I do think MS may reconsider adding an option to show the tray icon. I think they are hearing a fair amount of feedback from users wanting it.

said by JTM1051 :

Even though MSAS had this, I just continued to use CCleaner.

said by Lynn :

For those have trouble updating Defender:

Open the command prompt

Go to C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\ folder

Execute the following command: msiexec /x AS_Sigs.msi

Check for updates

Got this off the Microsoft boards. It worked for me.

said by kryptonian :

...One thing it doesn't have that its predecessor did was the "clear footprints" option. ...

said by AlkalineArmy :

They probably took it out since this feature is part of the new Internet Explorer 7.

said by NyQuil Kid :

No - signature 1.0.0.0

[8F] The NyQuil Kid

said by amysheehan :

From the FAQ's page:
»www.microsoft.com/athome/securit···faq.mspx

Q. What is the difference between Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) and Windows Defender (Beta 2)?

4.Definition updates delivered through Automatic Updates. Windows Defender (Beta 2) now receives updates through Automatic Updates [[[LINK: »www.microsoft.com/athome/securit···tes.mspx ]]]]]. Provided by Microsoft analysts, these updates help keep you protected from the latest threats at no additional cost.

:)

said by greenhatch :

Well, I think it's a poor oversight by M$! There should always be an icon in the sys tray.

said by MADx :

:huh:

»blog.washingtonpost.com/security···g_1.html

said by HA Nut :

Anyone else missing the tray icon? I know WD is running (3 processes) but I still liked the MSAS icon. I don't see any way to place one in the tray... :(

said by Santa Fe :

Hmmmm....chose the full scan option, and "Windows?" Defender found nothing. Ran Spybot Search & Destroy right after, and it found 3 cases, mostly doubleclick and it's ilk. Now wondering why & how the MS one missed those in it's scan. :(

said by MADx :

:huh:

»blog.washingtonpost.com/security···g_1.html

said by gate1975mlm :

Yunk is all I can say!

What in the world is Microsoft smoking?

Windows Defender is missing a lot of options that Microsoft Anti spyware has. And is ugly.

Seems like they down graded instead of up grading.

I am sticking with Microsoft Antispyware for now. Windows Defender looks like crap. :(

said by Keizer :

They took all the cool graphics out, and made it all Microsoftable looking. :(

said by Doctor Olds :

I wonder if they bought the name or took it?