 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Its more expensive than that..... Dont forget to add the cost of the landline also. I have the cheapest package Verizon offers and the phone bill is $45 per month. Add any DSL package and I would be paying almost $70. DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!!
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| said by wifi4milez:Dont forget to add the cost of the landline also. I have the cheapest package Verizon offers and the phone bill is $45 per month. Add any DSL package and I would be paying almost $70. DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!! maybe if you weren't buying a 'package' try a local exchange plan. usually about 1/8th the price of your 'package' |
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As with most of the cable versus DSL debates; this must be looked at at the local level - making sweeping claims about which is better/cheaper is narrow.
I live in QWest territory, who offers naked DSL - sure to get the best rate I need a bundle of services with QWest, but the same is true of the cable (charter) in my area.
So the landline cost argument does not apply to me.
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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said by maverick215:said by wifi4milez:Dont forget to add the cost of the landline also. I have the cheapest package Verizon offers and the phone bill is $45 per month. Add any DSL package and I would be paying almost $70. DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!! maybe if you weren't buying a 'package' try a local exchange plan. usually about 1/8th the price of your 'package' That is incorrect. I literally have dial tone ONLY. 10 cents per minute for LOCAL, plus a varying LD rate. The worst part is that I only have this landline as a backup in case the power goes out (or 911 is needed), it has never once even had a call placed on it.
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Eek2121Lovin Verizon FIOS
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Newton, NJ | Then $45 isn't a bad deal, Comcast charges $60/mo for cable internet without TV. |
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You pay $45/month just for a dial tone and still have to pay 10 cents per minute for Local calls??? That's just crazy.
Why don't you get VOIP? I have zipglobal and it's 2 cents a minute for anywhere in US/Canada and $3/month. It's gone out like once in the past year. |
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 HetermanPremium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR | reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:Dont forget to add the cost of the landline also. I have the cheapest package Verizon offers and the phone bill is $45 per month. Add any DSL package and I would be paying almost $70. DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!! I knew it wouldn't take long for this to be brought up. Who would have thought so soon though? Anyhow, $44.61 is what I pay for landline and 1.5/384 DSL service monthly. This price could probably be reduced by going with measured service. I understand people in different places pay different prices, but the blanket statement that DSL is more expensive because you have to have a landline is just false. Period. |
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to orangelemon
said by orangelemon:You pay $45/month just for a dial tone and still have to pay 10 cents per minute for Local calls??? That's just crazy. That's local service in NYC for you!
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to Dezbend
said by Dezbend:As with most of the cable versus DSL debates; this must be looked at at the local level - making sweeping claims about which is better/cheaper is narrow. I cant speak for every market, however there is a strong reason I mention it particular to my situation. Here in NYC, you cant get basic phone service for less than around $40. In this same market however, the difference in price for cable internet with TV versus without is only around $10 (or less). So in my case (and the millions who live around here), there is truly no comparison between cable and DSL.
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | reply to orangelemon
said by orangelemon:You pay $45/month just for a dial tone and still have to pay 10 cents per minute for Local calls??? That's just crazy. Why don't you get VOIP? I have zipglobal and it's 2 cents a minute for anywhere in US/Canada and $3/month. It's gone out like once in the past year. Trust me I have VoIP! I use Broadvoice as my primary phone and it never runs me more than $20. The landline is just there for emergencies.
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Fair enough, and NYC is a huge market compared to mine. I don't argue that cable is not the best choice in some or maybe even most cases (I would have to really think about that); I just hate seeing wide-spread claims "cable is the best, Windows is the best, etc." Your statement "DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!!" taken in context is probably accurate; I am just pointing out that independent research of local options is necessary before coming to a decision.
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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1 edit | said by Dezbend:I am just pointing out that independent research of local options is necessary before coming to a decision. I concur with your statement. 
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 ToadmanHypnotoad
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Ohio
kudos:1 | reply to wifi4milez
I am in the same boat as you are with Verizon. My Cable Modem plus Voicepulse is less expensive than $40 for a landline with caller id/ voicemail and 29.99 for DSL. |
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I think he's including the cost of DSL. I have a similar bare-bones line which costs under $7 a month. |
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said by wifi4milez:said by maverick215:said by wifi4milez:Dont forget to add the cost of the landline also. I have the cheapest package Verizon offers and the phone bill is $45 per month. Add any DSL package and I would be paying almost $70. DSL? FORGET IT, GET CABLE!!!! maybe if you weren't buying a 'package' try a local exchange plan. usually about 1/8th the price of your 'package' That is incorrect. I literally have dial tone ONLY. 10 cents per minute for LOCAL, plus a varying LD rate. The worst part is that I only have this landline as a backup in case the power goes out (or 911 is needed), it has never once even had a call placed on it. I would say it is quite correct. like I said 'usually'; on another note I find your situation absurd, hmmm... now that I think about it, isn't the phone company required to maintain 911 ability on every line, 'current' or not? atleast that is what a phone company in my state told me, when I worked for them. |
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How about $20 a month for a dry pair DSL at 768/128? Or $35 a month I think for the 3m/768k plan. Add unlimited calls through vonage its about $50 with tax or through sunrocket $42. That's about the same or less than a cable line without TV. |
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He is not, he stated adding DSL makes his line $70.
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However, if you are looking at a history of anti-competitive practices, consumer fraud in unclear and misleading fees, then by all means FORGET ILEC DSL and GET CABLE!
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join:2000-05-11 | Oh yeah...cable companies have never defrauded, mislead or fleeced their customers... I feel so fortunate being forced to pay for 190 channels I have no interest in just to get the 10 I do watch. Man, it gives me warm fuzzies every time I open my monthly love letter from Comcast. 
For the record: Landline ($17 including fees, taxes and Big Ed's Slush Fund) + 6016/608 DSL ($45) still beats the crap out of what Comcast charges for comparable cable modem service in these parts, and my rate has not changed in over two years.
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However, much like elections on the federal level, we must choose the lesser of too evils. And quite honestly, the Bells have been defrauding consumers and blackmailing government far longer than cable has.
$17 for a local phone line? I wish I lived where you did. Here the cheapest line you can get runs around $25-30 depending on which part of the state line you are on and forget about LD or other bells and whistles like call waiting and caller ID.
In that $17 price are you including all the taxes and fees? Because the fees alone on a local line here are in the range of $10-15.
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