 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
 ·Frontier FiOS
| Raise your hand... ...if you don't know the difference between unlimited bandwidth and unlimited time. It's only been rehashed a few thousand times here that when an ISP is selling a unlimited service, they are selling always-on, not unlimited downloads.
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 PateoPremium
join:2005-11-15 | Granted, that's probably in the TOS - I don't know.
I do know that ISP's rarely if ever make that point clear to potential subscribers when advertising their services. |
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Raise Your hand....
...if you want to ignore the fact that the marketing term "unlimited" is intentionally misleading, and pretend it's the end-users fault for being stupid. It's only been rehashed a few thousand times here that the term "unlimited" should not be used by a marketing department if the service they're selling has caps or limits of any kind. |
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 intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
 ·Cingular Wireless
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that is the fucking dumbest definition.....unlimited = always on? My god thats like Frigidaire saying I have UNLIMITED COOLING! because the refrigerator is turned on all the time.
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | reply to cdru
I'll raise my hand because Verizon tried this and failed to live up to what it SAID (screw the fine print, if you tell someone "I'll give you unlimited service" then say quietly "But really it isnt", then your deceiving the customer. |
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said by cdru:...if you don't know the difference between unlimited bandwidth and unlimited time. It's only been rehashed a few thousand times here that when an ISP is selling a unlimited service, they are selling always-on, not unlimited downloads. Unlimited is DEFINED as having NO LIMITS---PERIOD.
»dictionary.reference.com/search?q=unlimited
1. Having no restrictions or controls: an unlimited travel ticket.
2. Having or seeming to have no boundaries; infinite: an unlimited horizon.
3. Without qualification or exception; absolute: unlimited self-confidence.
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Eek2121Lovin Verizon FIOS
join:2002-10-12
Newton, NJ Reviews:
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Yeah, you try to sell ME unlimited service and then place limits on it...watch what happens. I'll laugh all the way to the bank. Seriously, it doesn't matter what the ISPs think unlimited means, it's what they portray it to mean that matters. Thats why comcast and many other ISPs have stopped advertising unlimited...it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. |
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| said by Eek2121:Yeah, you try to sell ME unlimited service and then place limits on it...watch what happens. I'll laugh all the way to the bank. Seriously, it doesn't matter what the ISPs think unlimited means, it's what they portray it to mean that matters. Thats why comcast and many other ISPs have stopped advertising unlimited...it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Comcast still isn't any better.
Comcast Rep:"Sir you are downloading too much!"
Person: What is "too much" so it won't happen again?
Comcast rep: STFU and and quit asking questions. You are downloading too much bitch and you should accept it. |
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intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
| you didnt include the part where the Comcast rep experiences the recieving end of Ultraviolence.
I think more people need to get punched in the face when they pull crap like that.
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There are two selling points for broadband. Always-on and unlimited download. Marketing something as unlimited means what it says. Unlimited has no contextual meaning to the ability to always get a connection. Unlimited time -- what the hell does that mean?
Stop being an apologist asshat and mind your business if you have nothing constructive to add. |
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to defend the users, right when they intro'd the cap, they were advertising unlimited downloads.
so i'm guessing theres people who signed up before the changed the wording for west canadian users, and had no idea it wasn't unlimited downloads anymore. |
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
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said by Minister:Raise Your hand.... ...if you want to ignore the fact that the marketing term "unlimited" is intentionally misleading, And much of marketing isn't misleading? It's marketing 101. Intentionally skating the fine line between legally safe and illegally deceptive marketing. I remember reading an article once about the deceptive, but still perfectly legal phrases used in marketing. I'd toss the phrase "unlimited broadband" in the boat with it.
I'm not going to argue that saying it's unlimited broadband but then putting caps on it isn't somewhat misleading. I'm just saying that this isn't exactly the first time this has ever happened. If you are going to argue that it's misleading to advertise "unlimited broadband", then you better argue that they shouldn't offer different speed tiers either. After all, the only difference between a speed cap and a download cap is time.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to Minister
But exactly who's fault is it for not reading their agreement in the first place where unlimited and always on are defined?
Problem is that so many people here the word unlimited and then tune out anything else after that. Unlmited what? Use? access? Transfer? head aches? Unlimited amounts of downtime? What?
I do hear tham market, more, instant access always on internet more so that unlimited internet.
Even in the telephone business, unlimited long distance is based loosly on the average residential use which has been deemed the average of 5000 minute a month. Unlimited is how it's marked in the sense that it's intended for use, again, deemed avg. 5000 minutes a month. People would know THAT if they read their agreements - that little thing you are required to read and accept, usually just clicking accept with out reading simply to complete the install "because we've heard it all before. Right? Then what? Here we are complaining they were never told.  |
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I agree. The phone companies might as well advertise UNLIMITED PHONE USAGE for $19.99/month...
and conveniently forget the small print
...as long as you talk without actually dialing the phone.
That would be just as ethic. |
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