Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues in All Things Macintosh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15545363 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:32:55 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:32:55 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576262 BellBoy :
said by Sid See Profile :

I was thanked for posting it to macworld, but they wish I didn't make it public though. I'm just happy its taken care of and actually surprised it wasn't noticed earlier.
Yeah, it was unfortunate...but now let's just refer to it as a "motivator".

;-)
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said by Crypto See Profile :

Hey nice, a celebrity! Thanks for shaking the tree a little for us peons, Leo.
Leo's just a geek with a radio and TV show. He puts his pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. It is fun chatting with him on Saturdays and Sundays on IRC though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15574112 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:09:23 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15574088 HappyBunny : I got this reply from Mr Page. And then a confirmed reply from Customer Service.

I am working to get this fixed. We were unaware that our subscription service provider failed to provide a second check for subscriptions.

Sincerely,
Rick LePage
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said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

said by login name See Profile :

quick, gimme your ip address and I will
Haha, that's the only reason I haven't done it yet.. Trying to find an anonymous proxy ;)
Netshade may help. You can use a proxy in Niger. ;)
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said by ylen131 See Profile :

why did you have to email them, i am sure a lot of people on this board would love to have access to those information. You spoiled all the fun by email them and letting them know.
Yea, what he said, ya bastard.:uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15574066 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:04:22 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15574005 ylen131 : why did you have to email them, i am sure a lot of people on this board would love to have access to those information. You spoiled all the fun by email them and letting them know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15574005 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:57:31 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15573532 leXicon5 :
said by jasonsnell See Profile :

They provide circulation and list-management services for numerous magazines... probably hundreds of them.
Yeah....that's good news....thank you....:huh:
My evening will be spent visiting each and every one of the mags I subscribe to to see what others of mine are wide open....
On the upside....I know what Monday night plans are now....:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15573532 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:57:12 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15573425 DrewCapu : Warning: You've made your 2nd post.

dslreports addiction soon to follow.

We still welcome you here though :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15573425 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:42:51 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15573394 login name : awe, does this mean I can't pull up Sir Jobs account and change his mailing address to:

One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052-6399
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said by leolaporte See Profile :

I sent a note to Jason Snell about it. He says it's a third party subscription service that handles hundreds of other magazines. They have instructions to stop it with any means necessary.
Hey nice, a celebrity! Thanks for shaking the tree a little for us peons, Leo.

What I'd /really/ like to know is whether IDG uses this same application code for /all/ their magazine's circulation databases? I get a lot of trade magazines that have IDG logos somewhere on them, and I wonder whether or not they all have the same exposure.

Mind you, I dont blame IDG for anything here, but it would be nice to see if they can use this opportunity to fix what could be a broader problem.
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The president of Mac Publishing, publishers of Macworld, has told our circulation people to solve this problem. First step: get rid of the e-mail lookup option. Second steps to increase security in other ways still forthcoming.

This subscription functionality is provided via a third-party list management company used by many, many different magazines. I wouldn't be surprised if many different magazines have similarly crappy security on their circulation file.

In any event, it's totally unacceptable and I'm encouraged by the fact that the president of our company has told them so. I would imagine that, for Macworld subscribers, customer service will become a bit more harder to access -- but the security of their personal information will be dramatically increased as well.

-Jason Snell, editorial director, Mac Publishing/Macworld]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15572539 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:42:24 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15572501 BellBoy : We might have Leo to thank for them pulling it down. I sent him an email with a link to this thread. He emailed MW and now "miraculously" it gets pulled down.

Perhaps a spot on TWiT didn't appeal to them, eh? ;-)

Edit: from Leo via email: "It will be on the next twit - I've already flagged it!" :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15572501 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:37:10 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15572461 HiVolt : They've removed the search by email field already. Good thing they acted quickly.
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said by leolaporte See Profile :

By the way, that's my old home address. Please don't bother the people there.
Likely story. So, do you miss your subscription? :-)
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By the way, that's my old home address. Please don't bother the people there.

I sent a note to Jason Snell about it. He says it's a third party subscription service that handles hundreds of other magazines. They have instructions to stop it with any means necessary. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15572346 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:17:37 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15571624 russotto :
said by login name See Profile :

Yeah, i got that too, but I wonder why the address of 8872 is used.
It's teh Steve's ATM PIN. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15571624 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:32:12 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570686 leXicon5 :
said by Rob See Profile :

Name: Steve Jobs
Address: 8872 Infinite Loop
City/State: San Jose, CA
Zip/Postal Code: 95101 United States
E-mail: bgates@microsoft.com

Someone changed it to Bill Gates's emal address.
Within the last few minutes as I JUST took that screenshot before posting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570686 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:56:36 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570639 Crypto : Leo too.
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Address: 8872 Infinite Loop
City/State: San Jose, CA
Zip/Postal Code: 95101 United States
E-mail: bgates@microsoft.com

Someone changed it to Bill Gates's emal address. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570625 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:41:09 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570621 leXicon5 :
said by Crypto See Profile :

With all due respect, you havent given them nearly enough time to fix it.

We're not talking about clicking on a box that says "show all the user" and removing a checkbox.
I was writing nearly the same thing but...what they could have done was to take that page down and replace it with a "Sorry for the inconvenience, the On-Line subscription service is temporarily off-line for maint..." etc etc...
They don't have to leave it up. That would have been a simple flip of a "switch"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570621 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:40:30 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15570592 leXicon5 : well it appears someone has been dickin' around with Mr. jobs account....
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said by obeythelaw See Profile :

yeah, not a priority for them. they won't fix it. i guess i will be cancelling my sub. i didn't think they would act on it.
With all due respect, you havent given them nearly enough time to fix it.

We're not talking about clicking on a box that says "show all the user" and removing a checkbox.

We're talking about macworld re-writing their subscription frontend application. It's got to be planned, designed, written, tested, and implemented.

You're not asking them to do something trivial here. The president told you it was a contract job, which means that the web company that wrote it is probably not very large, and doesnt have three shifts worth of people to get a problem fixed like MS or apple does.

I think the best solution here is to keep sending Macworld email to let them know you're still paying attention and that your data is still vulnerable. Make sure that the important people keep it on the top of their todo list until its done.

Sending the executives of Macworld a screenshot of their addresses with the current date on it, once a week, would probably get the point across nicely.
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said by Crypto See Profile :

Whats going to be funnier is when you have a cancelled subscription and your name stays in there for 2 years until they purge the database.
Which is exactly what happens, as I'm still in there from 2004
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I'll make sure I go back in and tell them to send you your missing issues ;)
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said by login name See Profile :

4 days later and I can still pull up sjobs account info.
yeah, not a priority for them. they won't fix it. i guess i will be cancelling my sub. i didn't think they would act on it.
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said by obeythelaw See Profile :

yeah, its good that they know about it. however, according to that response it seems as if its not always like that. i hope that aren't blowing us off and actually fix it.
Well that would be silly now wouldn't it? Considering the fact that hundreds now know and if it's not fixed we'll just sit on our thumbs and not alert the rest of the Mac World? (pun intended)
If the presidents account is open for full view...I'll bet there is someone getting dressed to go in and plug the hole as we speak.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15548273 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:20:57 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15548237 login name : Yeah, i got that too, but I wonder why the address of 8872 is used.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15548237 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:15:58 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15548219 ugfbill : 8872 infinite loop, san jose ca. sends me to infinite loop, cupertino.-Apple headquarters.

Bill]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15548219 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:14:18 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15546600 HotFries : Good Find...

This is another reason why I've been getting magazine subscriptions in a fake name about the last 6 months, including MacWorld.
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"You’re right, Darrin - this is not cool. I appreciate the fact that you let us know so quickly. I’m trying to get it closed up right now (the site is actually run by our subscription house, which is a contractor)."

Thanks again,
Rick
Rick LePage
President
Mac Publishing LLC
415-243-3570
rlepage@macworld.com
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15546355 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:16:19 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545472 login name : 8872 infinite loop doesnt "exist" according to google maps or mapquest.

hmmmmm.

it finds just Infinite Loop, but not 8872
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said by login name See Profile :

Please tell me Steve Jobs' email address isn't sjobs@mac.com
Don't forget steve@apple.com...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545388 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:06:28 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545363 wakko :
said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

said by login name See Profile :

quick, gimme your ip address and I will
Haha, that's the only reason I haven't done it yet.. Trying to find an anonymous proxy ;)
Try this one »www.hidemyass.com :)
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said by login name See Profile :

quick, gimme your ip address and I will
Haha, that's the only reason I haven't done it yet.. Trying to find an anonymous proxy ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545307 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:54:43 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545306 Sid : Maybe we should all just email the president of Macworld and tell him personally. :)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545306 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:54:38 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545300 login name : quick, gimme your ip address and I will]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545300 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:54:05 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545280 Thinkdiff : holy shit.. who wants to piss off steve jobs? Login to his account, and then go to Renew and select the option to bill me later. (ok, maybe it won't piss him off, but who knows.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545280 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:51:05 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545260 login name : cool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545260 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:48:58 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545241 hyperjoe : It is his email. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545241 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:46:53 EDT Re: Macworld magazine privacy issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15545237 login name : Please tell me Steve Jobs' email address isn't sjobs@mac.com
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