http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15575999 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:50:21 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:50:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576909 NyQuil Kid : Since 172.xx IP's are private, they are similar in nature to 192.xx - nothing to be concerned about, its just how Verizon probably set up the modem initially. This is normal, because the Westell 6100 modem is a basic modem:

»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »Westell 6100 Specific Information

For future reference:
»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »What is the proper way to set up a Netgear router with a Westell modem?

Private IP Address ranges are:
10.x.x.x
172.x.x.x
192.168.x.x

(referenced from here: »www.codeproject.com/cs/miscctrl/···sion.asp)

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid comes into town not looking for trouble... n00bz gang up, but he ain't seein' double,... pulls and draws, his deagles two... n00bz litter the ground you know it's true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576909 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:23:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576857 tr0910 : I'm still trying to figure out where my IP addresses in the range of 172.25.25.x were coming from back when the 6100 was supposed to be dishing them out. It wasn't what I had setup in the 6100 DHCP address ranges. They were all 192.168.1.x addresses. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576857 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:17:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576824 JohnA : Removed]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576824 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:12:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576747 NyQuil Kid : Good to hear....the only way to access the 6100 is to directly connect to it, then go to 192.168.1.1 - otherwise, you can't reach it AFAIK.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576747 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:03:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576701 tr0910 : Finally its working.

Removing the Lingo adapter was what solved the problem. The Lingo adapter was between the modem and the router, (where it was recommended to be), but it blocked any traffic going from the router to the modem. I put it on an outbound Netgear router port and it's working fine there.

Shouldn't I still be able to access the Westell modem at its IP address (192.168.1.1)? I set the DHCP server so all my computers now have IP addresses of 192.168.2.x Pinging 192.168.1.1 gives some wierd info now almost like it has to reach the modem via China.... and I can't enter that address in a browser window to bring up the 6100 config pages.

thanks for the ideas...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576701 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:58:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576623 NyQuil Kid : Try the following:

1) Make sure that the Westell 6100 is indeed set to bridge mode »Verizon Online DSL FAQ »How do I use a router with the Westell 6100? - BE ABSOLUTELY sure you have read this FAQ thoroughly

2) Connect your PC directly to the Netgear and go to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1 (whichever works) - if 1.1 works, you want to change it to 2.1

3) Enter the full username (regardless of what you see in the 6100) with the "@verizon.net" - even if the Westell 6100 didn't have it (I've always seen it with the verizon.net), using another router for PPPoE may require it. Did you happen to run the Verizon DSL CD? It may have reset the 6100 modem to a default setting....

4) Don't bother with MAC cloning - Verizon DSL doesn't use that nor requires it AFAIK

5) Remove the VOIP for now - you may have to reconfigure that later since you have changed the netgear to 192.168.2.1 and I presume the VOIP will be plugged into the Netgear

This procedure worked for me when I had to configure a 6100 with a D-Link 524 router.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid comes into town not looking for trouble...
n00bz gang up, but he ain't seein' double,...
pulls and draws, his deagles two...
n00bz litter the ground you know it's true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576623 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:47:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576287 tr0910 : We're PPPoE here. At least that is what works in the 6100.

The Account ID on the 6100 is a simple 8 character ID without the "verizon.net" Why would it be different in the Netgear router?

Once I change the IP address in the 6100, I can no longer access it in any way shape or form. No ping, NADA... I had to reset it to regain access. Perhaps I need to change the IP address of the Netgear router instead?? Should it be set to 192.168.2.1 ???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15576287 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:01:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575999 NyQuil Kid : It depends on whether he is in ex-GTE or PPPoE areas - I am not sure about MI personally, but here on the east coast we are PPPoE.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575999 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:23:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575990 JohnA :
You don't log in. Set your router to normal or acquire an Ip automatically, or whatever it calls DHCP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575990 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:21:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575957 NyQuil Kid : Hi again:

I think you need the verizon.net in the username - I had to place it there to get my DI-524 to work via PPPoE. Also, just be absolutely sure about the password and that the 6100 modem is indeed in bridge mode. Have you seen this:

»Verizon Online DSL FAQ »How do I use a router with the Westell 6100?

Also, you just mentioned changing the octet from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 - that is also important.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid comes into town not looking for trouble...
n00bz gang up, but he ain't seein' double,...
pulls and draws, his deagles two...
n00bz litter the ground you know it's true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575957 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:18:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575938 tr0910 : Both modem and router have the same IP address by default. (192.168.1.1)

I changed the modem to 192.168.2.1 to see if that will help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575938 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:16:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575880 tr0910 : I got it to take the MAC address but still no joy.

The username in the 6100 login doesn't have the "@verizon.net" part, so I left that out of the Netgear Login field.

Still banging head against wall......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575880 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:07:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575739 NyQuil Kid : With respect to login, you are correct - it will be something like [username]@verizon.net and a password. I just configured a Westell 6100 as a bridge to work with a D-Link 524 router. At first it was slow to work, but after two mins, it kicked in.

Also change the IP of the Netgear to 192.168.2.1 (EDIT to reflect this necessary change).

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid comes into town not looking for trouble...
n00bz gang up, but he ain't seein' double,...
pulls and draws, his deagles two...
n00bz litter the ground you know it's true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575739 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:50:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575702 tr0910 : On the WGR614 that option is only available when you connect without a login. I believe that once my 6100 is in bridge mode, the DSL login will have to come from the Netgear router. I this correct?

I'll fuss with the Netgear Router and see if I can get it to take the MAC address in login mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575702 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:45:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575520 JohnA :
Did you clone the MAC address from the 6100 into the Netgear, as per those instructions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575520 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:23:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15575446 tr0910 : After lots of problems with a Westell 327W not being able to maintain a reliable connection, Verizon shipped me a Westell 6100 to replace it. Since the 6100 is not a 4 port switch / wifi combo, I purchased a Netgear WGR614 v6 to get my connectivity back. However, it won't play with the 6100 even after the 6100 is changed to bridge mode based on instructions here:

»members.verizon.net/~res08lyg/6100.htm

By itself the 6100 modem works fine at 192.168.1.1 I don't understand why my computers get IP addresses starting from 172.25.25.2 when the private lan config on the 6100 has a DHCP range from 192.168.1.15 through 192.168.1.47 but at least I can connect. Once I install the Netgear router, and use the manual basic settings script, I cannot get my DSL service working and I cannot ping the 6100.

I have a Lingo VOIP adapter between the 6100 and the Netgear router and the internet is plugged into the router WAN port.

Any ideas?

Here is my IPCONFIG data:

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : a750
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : ADMtek AN983 10/100 PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-BF-1E-2C-02
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.25.25.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.25.25.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.25.25.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1
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