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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to NPGMBR
Re: Verizon big loser 1- I hate to tell you this, FiOS is not being deployed to please the investors today, they are, however, looking into the future. VZ knows it's not an instant money return. I think the FiOS mess is much 'more' than most people here can comprehend and I really don't think anyone here at BBR knows what's really going on with FiOS.
2- Bells are not the king of telephony. They may be the king of telephone, but not telephony. I think, at the moment, Comcast is. 
Have you also not been reading the much about the great U.S. bb slowdown? There are homes out there with out DSL. It's beelived that until the next generation matures and moves out to need their own service that the slowdown will continue on deployment. There isn't much more room for growth in the over all deployment of services. Maybe a churb between the technologies, but not much in growth. DSL can still push out and grab more customers as they don't serve their entire foot print to this day, but then most they would grab is cable's customers, and probably a few new ones on price that will give up dialup.
There is one thing that tells me that VZ isn't going to come in, swoop up cable customers, and end that technology. VZ has a reputation that many people in their area (alot of east coast subs) aren't going to embrase the company. VZ has a large history of abusing their subs with high prices, lousy service, and well, just horrible treatment. I for one will choose the alternative provider over price and have done so in the past. Many of the older generation will do the same. The younger croud will go with the technology, the older group will remembe rthe abuse and go to the alternative choice. Again, another reason why I don't think fiber alone will be the hero for VZ. | |
 NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | 1 – I don’t hate to tell you at all that you read something totally different from what I posted. AT NO POINT did I say FIOS was being deployed to please investors.
2 – Yes I agree that VZ is taking the high road and attacking its competitors with a product that will make them relevant in the future, unlike their cousins AT&T, Bell South and Quest.
3 – The posters here on BBR know just as much about FIOS as whats posted to the site. I think they are a little smarter than you imply.
4 – Did you even bother to check the definition of telephony before trying school me on what it really means? Telephony: the science, technology, or system of communication by telephone.
By that definition, my original claim stands. Comcast is king of Cable Television (at least I think their the biggest), not telephony.
5 – Yes I’ve been reading a lot about whats going on in the industry but at the moment there is no great slowdown in broadband. What the hell are you reading? At every turn there are articles about how Comcast, VZ, AT&T, TW, Quest, AOL, Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, VZW, Sprint, Cingular, Nextel, DirectTV, Dish Network and etc. are all putting some kind of plan in action to move away from old technologies to newer technologies that bring consumers more content over bigger pipes.
If anything you need to go back and do some reading of your own, because it is abundantly clear that you are out of the loop.
In my area, (Northern Virginia) Verizon has served us well. My VZ DSL package has been fantastic and FIOS is already deployed to my neighborhood. Because your experience with Verizon has not been great (if you’ve had any experience with Verizon being that your in ......... Is Minneapolis Quest’s territory) does not mean its lousy throughout the rest of the country. | |
fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | You make lots of assumptions. Glad you have the time to dispute each thing I say. Out of the loop? Hardly...  I work in the industry dude.
Second, what makes you assume that I have no experience with Verizon? Small minds look at things current. I am odl enough to have had the possibility to live in other areas of the country.
*Telephone* in general, has ebused the nation long enough. It's there, established, and regulated enough to be well known.
Just because you use the term Telephony doens't make you sound smarter - just makes you look like you are trying to be an educated know it all. Telephone - pots, telephony, generally used by alternative carriers to pots, or are you out of the loop? | |
NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | Yep, I made assumptions just as you did.
Go back and read my post AGAIN. And be certain what you read is what I said. You seem to have a habit of seeing what you want to see vice what was actually written.
Regardless of what the proper term is, you tried to berate me for using telephony when it was clear that you didn't know the meaning yourself. Sounds kinda shady for someone that "work in the industry dude".
My use of telephony never made me look or feel any better than anyone else. Well ............ not until you tried to challenge me on it. Then it became personal!
I too have been around long enough to live in various parts of the country including, San Diego, New Orleans, Jacksonville NC, and now Metro, DC. But that didn’t make me feel as if I need to run out and convince the world that VZ is not to be trusted. | |
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