In-Flight Wireless Use Dangerous? > I think...

I think...

So everyone that has a cell phone is a screaming yammering jerk? Screaming infants, turbine whine, etc bother you? Maybe you should consider driving to your next destination. The angry, bitchy passenger is just as bad.

I guess everyone on a red eye is going to have people calling them... That's to assume that people on the ground are going to care to call people at 2am.

Is this thread about bitching about cell phone use? or the safety of it's very use on a plane?

reply to Karl Bode
Exactly, and not just yammering- what about people who get into an argument on their phones: what joy to sit next to that for three hours!
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Dawn,n,The time when men of reason go to bed. (Ambrose Bierce.)

reply to fiberguy
Hey, lighten up, fella.

It's an internet newsgroup thread, not congressional testimony over the patriot act....

reply to fiberguy

You are right, I AM surprised!! You were on a flight where a 13 year old was on a cell phone for 4 hours?? On what phone? His own? umm.... Or the phone in the seat?

Lets examine:

Air Phones: Most are about average $4.00 per minute. At 4 hours, that about a $960.00 call - and that's not including the connection charge and the fact that SOME services are as high as $5.00 a minute - so add another $240 for that.

Personal Cell Phone: well, that's to assume that at 7 miles in the air for 4 hours there were towers that he could connect to for that long to be able to talk that much. Hell, I can't drive an interstate for 4 hours and not run into dead spots much less sit in an airplane at 38,000 feet on a cell phone for 4 hours - where a flight attendant would have put an end to that REAL quick!

So what do you think people - do we believe this statement? or is it a story that 'sounds good'....

Face it. You don't appear to like cell phones at all. In the store, on a plane, or probably in public at all. So let's get to the real point - you just don't like cell phones. Fine. Let's restrict them to the office and the home. Wait! Then we don't need them at all since we already have wired phones that have done the job for years already.

Screaming infants are a result of "gross negligence of the parents"? My god you are a moron.. ever heard of infants who don't deal well with the difference of pressure? Yea.. the parent is certainly guilt of "gross negligence" for not wrapping the infant in one of those airplane blankets, stuffing a pillow in it's face and placing it in the over head compartment. I hate a screaming kid just as the next on a flight, but face it - kids have to travel, and there isn't much that can be done about it. For every 5 people that complain about screaming kids on board, I am sure that at least 2 or 3 of them were once screaming kids them self.

I don't believe that cell phones increase car wrecks one bit. I think STUPID people cause car wrecks. There is NOTHING different about talking on a cell phone as there is talking to your passenger next to you. I've had a cell phone before many of the people here knew what they were. Not ONE single accident - ever. The only thing that has changed is that cell phones have become more affordable for the masses and when that happens you are bound to gain the attention of the already accident prone idiots and careless people that drive up numbers so something gets blamed on the cell phone. I bet if you did a study on the people that have creamed their cars while on the phone, you will probably find that those people already had a high rate of accidents or incidents in their life BEFORE they had a cell phone.

As for the "flight experience" - I don't give a rats ass about the "experience" - I, as a typical business traveler (the leading group of people that keep air lines flying in the first place) just want to get from A to B. Quite honestly, many of the BUSINESS travelers feel that recreational travellers with all their families, on board bags, kids, and other BS that they bring with them make our "experience" more painful. (Yea, business travellers tend to fly last minute or pay a much higher fare than the low budget flyer)

There is no "experience" in flying. That's assumed like many other things. Let's live in the real world for a minute. Everyone wants to be treated the way THEY see fit. There are millions of people in this country and there are a million ways people believe their "experience" should go. The truth of the matter - I'd like to see drink service confined to sippy cups and meal service reduced to protein bars. At least that way, the old bag sitting next to me won't fall asleep with her drink on her seat back tray for it to land on me the next change of turbulence or the food that goes the same direction. I'd like to see sleeping banned on a plane as well as I am tired of old lady Martha who hasn't showered in days falls over into my shoulder constantly. I also think we should ban fat people because they take up their seat and mine too.

The truth of the matter is this - why do you attack the cell phone? It's not the phone, it's the person who uses it in a way that is rude as SOME people do, or it's the unreasonable bastard who thinks their "space" should be a cone of silence. I guess on board conversations should be banned and the no-smoking signs should be replaced with no-talking signs too!

This country and many of the people in it always have a tendency to attack an issue from the wrong side of things. You deal with the person causing the problem. The cell phone is not the issue. Not everyone on a phone YELLS and BLABBERS into them. RUDE people do. I suppose that we should ban candy wrappers to stop littering as well? After all, everyone throws their wrappers on the ground too right? No, we go after the person that threw the wrapper on the ground, not the wrapper itself. When it comes to cell phones, is it too hard for a flight attendant to simply tell the blabbering idiot to please be a little more quiet or respect full to those around them as they are being loud? No - we are a nation of pretentious bastards who don't know how to simply talk to the fellow man any more. We are too easy to pick up the phone and call the cops vs. talking to the neighbors who we no longer care to get to know. And we are way too fast to pass laws banning, er, restricting our freedoms in the country because we are a nation of weenies that can't simply open our mouth and ask, politely without being a prick - you know, being the bigger man, and ask someone to please be quiet - WHEN IT'S REASONABLE.

Here's how we're going to do this. I swear I hate people who selectively delete words that come out of my keys.

I am only going to respond to one point, the rest is useless actually and not worth taking the time.

Studies... studies are just about as good as those that run them and usually have bias to them. What is studied and concluded today will be refuted by the next study that comes out tomorrow.

Cell phones cause cancer - no they don't, yes they do! No they don't!

Wine is good, no it's bad.. no, it's good!

Chocolate is good, no it's bad.. yes!! It's good!

The restults of most studies that come out, such as cell phone safety studies that have beenenacted by advocacy groups to get rid of them, are a great back up when you run out of toilet paper.