Re: Hmmm... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15599860 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:31:12 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:31:12 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15624115 b10010011 :
said by UnKown See Profile :

lol, future arrest for stealing cable. you cant prove it! the cable company just accidentally hooked the wrong cable up.
Thats called Passive Theft.:p

»www.ncta.com/press/press.cfm?PRi···icles=ok
Active theft, typically the focus of past signal theft efforts, is the result of illegal physical connections to the cable plant, or attaching or tampering with equipment to allow the reception of unauthorized services. Passive theft occurs when a consumer passively accepts cable services that are inadvertently flowing into the home due to faulty technical or operational procedures. Consumers are generally aware of passive theft because they're receiving services for which they're not being billed.

Sure you may not go to jail for it, but you can be sued in civil court and end up paying $$$.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15624115 Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:06:19 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15613098 UnKown : well i could be leaching off the social programs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15613098 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:49:53 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15609994 NyQuil Kid : Spoken like a gutless worm....

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15609994 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:49:27 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15607452 UnKown : yeah ive talked with the neighbor, i help him out with his computer troubles, and he hooks me up. Its all gravy that way. If i wasnt buming cable id be buming satellite. I just cant bring myself to pay to watch tv that is riddled with advertisements.

with the good ol cell phone i get unlimited minutes which is a plus. i havent heard anything good about the prepaid phones yet.

O yeah i cut my electric bill in half by running a carefully camo extension cord that connects to the apartment communities street lamps. This beast powers my computer and all its accessories along with the television.

lol, future arrest for stealing cable. you cant prove it! the cable company just accidentally hooked the wrong cable up. I do have a job good sir, thats how i afford the rest of the bills.

And yes i take pride in everything i do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15607452 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:37:56 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15603683 shashinka : Good for you! I might check with the neighbor. Hey I'd say if the cable company didn't shut off the line then too bad for them! You might want to go cheaper with like sunrocket and then get a prepaid cellular. Cingular has for $9 per month. Sunrocket is $18 a month. So you just half'd your bill!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15603683 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:26:53 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15603639 NyQuil Kid : I look forward to your future arrest for stealing cable and using bandwidth that doesn't belong to you - here's an idea: Get a job - that's what I did when I attended college.

Sad that you actually take pride for being lazy - how pathetic.

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free wireless internet that i bum off the neighbor. Adelphias HSI 4 mbit down 512 up. Its running pretty good. Latencity is a bit high but i think thats due to the wireless.

Free cable tv, that i bumed off the cable box in the utility closet. Of course its basic cable but it has the essentials.

$52.17 for unlimited nationwide cellular minutes. only drawback to this is, the phone only works in south florida. Not to bad because i dont travel out of south florida.

this is the ideal economic setup for a college student like me. Someday ill actually be able to afford the stuff, until then im living it up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15603613 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:16:52 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15599927 djrobx : Right, which means you're making an unfair comparison. Compare dynamic Comcast with dynamic SBC Expert Plus.
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said by staticx57 See Profile :

Just remember though, it's never comcast's fualt.
No doubt!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15599860 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:35:01 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598992 NY Tel : As long as your S/N ratios are within spec as well as your transmit and receive power levels are good, you usually do not see an increase or decrease in speed.
What tends to happen is that as the upstream transmit power approached 50+ you start to lose sync and it sometimes appears as slow speeds.
your 44 reading is fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598992 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:50:12 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598675 dentman42 :
said by Phil See Profile :

Yes, but we all know that Pepsi, Chevy, AMD, nVidia and DSL are better.
No Pepsi. Coke.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598675 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:05:30 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598559 N3OGH : Well, I was willing to eat some crow on this one, but crow just aint on the menu this evening.

I attached my cable modem directly to the grounding block, and here are my results.

Direct Connection to grounding block

Downstream
Power .52 dBmV
Signal to noise ratio 34dB

Upstream
Power
39.25 dBmV

Speed test results were 3341 down, 348 up

Connected through my home's CATV wiring

Downstream
Power -3.09 dBmV
Signal to noise ration 34 dB

Upstream
Power 44.0 dBmV

Speed test results 3650 down, 348 up

Looks like the problem isn't the wiring. the 44 dBmV on the upstream isn't the best, but it's well within the limits, and I should be getting full speed with it.

Well, I'm getting PM'ed from the system, my trace route is in....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15598559 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:50:37 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597923 hyperon :
said by oliphant See Profile :

How much is static IP service with Comcast? The last time I checked it was $150/mo and you still had the restrictive TOS.
Yes, this is why I'm still with SBC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597923 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:14:29 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597828 GilbertMark :
said by b10010011 See Profile :

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
My Comcast HSI is $56.95 a month since I have the cheapest level of TV service with them.
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said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by b10010011 See Profile :

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
I dunno. I have Comcast now, and quite frankly, I'm not terribly happy. The price just went up, and the service is pushing $50 with my privately owned cable modem.

For the most part, all I do at home anymore is surf the web, get e-mail, and the occasional iTunes download.

If not, Verizon's got a pretty good introductory rate for 768 dsl that I may look into.

If all you do is surf the net, check e-mail and an occasional download, the DSL web page loading is faster than cable.
50 bucks is just too much to pay for Internet access.

With your cable modem, if your upstream transmit power is less than 45 and downstream less than 13, un-ratting the coax will not improve your speed. It might improve your S/N ratio but not enough to boost your speed.
I had cable for4 years and dumped it because of the 45 dollar charge and LOUSY throughput.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597632 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:41:12 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597514 staticx57 : Just remember though, it's never comcast's fualt. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597514 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:29:38 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597394 ebiebi :
said by b10010011 See Profile :

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
That's if you bundle with Comcrap TV. In Albuquerque, expanded basic costs almost 55 dollars a month. The reception is so bad here for CC that I had to cancel it. Basically I had really bad ingress issues with CC and there is nothing you can do about that.. except go with a comcast Digital box which will help a little since the shielding is pretty good to reduce ingress is. But the PQ is still bad and the audio on the analogs is a joke compared to my Dish setup.. In fact, I have 3 TV's on Dish all with interactive guides and one with a HD tuner.. AT120 channels for LESS then CC regular expanded cable (and that is with regular dish prices.. not a promo!) So for many, the only way to do HSI with CC is to un bundle the comcrap TV which then costs 60 dollars a month with predatory price and they only give you 4 megabit down.

As far as qwest goes... they have been discounting their DSL for a whole year for under 30 dollars a month. CC does not even have anything close to a full year promo.. not even remotely for their HSI as far as I have seen.. And if you do bundle their TV services to get their decent HSI price.. you will be spending alot more money then DSL/satellite. I am saving over thirty dollars a month with Dish/Qwest over what CC charged me for digital cable/HSI.. And comcast digital only provided me with a few local HD channels.. I have a OTA antenna connected to my 811HD receiver and get over a dozen local HD channels. Plus Comcast SA HD boxes suc big time.. the SA3050 makes the SD channels look dark.. PQ is horrible. The SA8000 was even worse screwing up the analogs something fierce when it was converting the analog to digital so it could record to HD.. Until CC goes full digital... which won't be anytime soon in Albuquerque, and drops their prices a bunch to come closer to sat prices.. I won't even try CC TV again.. But when my promo is over for qwest, I may jump on HSI promo with CC for 3 months and then go back to qwest on another promo.. Your right about one thing.. qwest 1.5 is not worth 40 bucks a month.. and CC HSI predatory unbundled HSI is not worth 60 either.. but there is a very easy way around that. It only takes me 5 minutes to switch accounts.

Qwest has also improved the distance issues a great deal my installing more RT's in Albuquerque.. Coverage is very good now compared to what it used to be. And so far, my up time is considerably better then it was with CC.. CC was not bad, but I do recall having small outages one or twice a month here. I have had my DSL connected since last July and so far not one outage yet.. which is pretty dang good.

I know that CC has lost alot of ground to Qwest.. at least in my local market. But to be honest, when streaming, and web surfing etc.. I can't tell the difference between CC and qwest connections.. And my DSL speed is as fast as advertised. And my upload is over twice as fast as CC was.. I think CC marketing speed increases in favor of lower prices is all marketing.. Most people will never notice. If anything, I do notice my improved upload speed.

As for installing my service.. I had a self install kit from Qwest.. When I received the modem everything was already done on their end.. I just put the dsl filters on my phones and I was up in minutes.. Never even called them.. it was more then smooth.. Every time I have had CC I have had to call them to activate.. and then wait hours for it to kick in.. But that is not a big deal for most being that is a one time problem. But I did expect more problems with DSL but I am happy to say that it has performed perfectly for me for over 6 months now in every way. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597394 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:15:05 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597336 Phil :
said by DarkSithPro See Profile :

Coke vs. Pepsi, Chevrolet vs. Ford, Intel vs. AMD, ATI vs. nVidia....

Yup, we know where this topic is going...

My puter is better than yours n00b!
Yes, but we all know that Pepsi, Chevy, AMD, nVidia and DSL are better.
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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Qwest DSL $50/m 6m/700k (actual) $8.33/M
Bresnan Cable $56/m 2.5m/320k (actual) $22.40/M

I guess I dont have any rants about Qwest because I have nothing to compair it to...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15597215 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:51:30 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596979 DarkSithPro : Coke vs. Pepsi, Chevrolet vs. Ford, Intel vs. AMD, ATI vs. nVidia....

Yup, we know where this topic is going...

My puter is better than yours n00b!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596979 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:16:55 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596855 Omega :
said by hyperon See Profile :

said by b10010011 See Profile :

Quest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
Yes this is the way to compare services on a dollar per mbps. Using your data:

Quest DSL is $26 per mbps.
Comcast HSI is $7 per mbps.

I pay $110 for a 6mbps /28 DSL static account with ATT:
Static DSL is 18.33 per mbps.

DSL is way too expensive.
You cannot compare a static IP account with a non-static IP account. They are two different things.
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said by b10010011 See Profile :

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
I can get cable from two different providers, but I'm too far for DSL faster than 144k. Go figure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596406 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:58:34 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596389 Ahrenl : Verizon DSL $14.95
Comcast cable $52.99

THAT's why its like it is.. This is in New England, high population density. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596389 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:56:09 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596368 oliphant : How much is static IP service with Comcast? The last time I checked it was $150/mo and you still had the restrictive TOS.
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said by b10010011 See Profile :

Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
I dunno. I have Comcast now, and quite frankly, I'm not terribly happy. The price just went up, and the service is pushing $50 with my privately owned cable modem.

I'm only getting about 3.3 megabit down, when they advertise 6.

For the most part, all I do at home anymore is surf the web, get e-mail, and the occasional iTunes download.

I plan on re wiring the cable coax in my house, since it is, admittedly, like a spaghetti diner and a rats nest rolled into one. I believe this will improve my modem's signal to noise ratio, and hopefully it's performance.

If not, Verizon's got a pretty good introductory rate for 768 dsl that I may look into.

Unless Comcast offered some sort of "lite" tier in the future.

Bottom line, Comcast is telling me how much faster they are, but they don't bring those speeds to the table :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596253 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:38:29 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596217 hyperon :
said by b10010011 See Profile :

Quest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?
Yes this is the way to compare services on a dollar per mbps. Using your data:

Quest DSL is $26 per mbps.
Comcast HSI is $7 per mbps.

I pay $110 for a 6mbps /28 DSL static account with ATT:
Static DSL is 18.33 per mbps.

DSL is way too expensive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596217 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:34:03 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596172 iSEPIC : ATT (SBC) is only $13.00 for 1.5 down here in my area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596172 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:28:45 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596165 b10010011 : Fios?:uhh:

I live in a Qwest area and FIOS is a Verizon service.:huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596165 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:27:57 EDT Re: Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596094 BIGMIKE : FiOS ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596094 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:19:56 EDT Hmmm... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596040 b10010011 : Qwest DSL $39 for 1.5 megabit
Comcast HSI $42 for 6 megabit

Now I am not a cable fanboy but for the money cable is still the best deal.

Besides I still can not get DSL but two blocks away can?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15596040 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:13:50 EDT