 hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Re: Classy... said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Alpine:Ahhh, those crazy bandwidth vampires - really classy people. Adam The neighbors are scum and they have no defense. Now that's being a bit harsh. |
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I'm stealing TkJunkmail's signal right now to read Howard Zinn speeches. |
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hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | said by Minister:Ya think? I'm stealing TkJunkmail's signal right now to read Howard Zinn speeches. And i suppose that TkJunkmail would classify pedophiles and rapists as "scum" too.  |
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| Glug glug glug glug, I also am gulping all the bandwidth my neighbors dont use p2ping to the tune of 25gigs a day. I have a cantenna direct from compusa pointing out every upstair window. Its so cool and the anonimity is awesome. If the **aa's bust down doors for p2ping content, it wont be mine and I may even be able to watch. Woo Hoo. But in all seriousness, the odds are very low of that ever happening. I can also monitor the broadband usage via the router logs and I am amazed at how little my neighbors actually use their connection. I am sure some households use it a lot but all my neighbors use it on average 1 hour a day. I am happy to keep it warm for them the other 23. And security? I have it all secured for them and even changed the passwords so rifraf wont butt in on our usage. I just love the wireless age. |
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Re: Classy... There is no distiction on anybodies SSID that "announces" if the owner intends this to be public, or if he/she is to stupid to encrypt access. Furthermore, I suggest that since
I pick up somebody elses network in MY house, they in fact are trespassing and deserve what they get!
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How mice of you. |
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I'm not impressed. You should have made your own cantennas. |
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 envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA | reply to kdandaoc
said by kdandaoc:Furthermore, I suggest that since I pick up somebody elses network in MY house, they in fact are trespassing and deserve what they get! then you are trespassing with your signal to their router/AP... remember, it's a two-way transmission. |
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 marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | reply to kdandaoc
said by kdandaoc:I pick up somebody elses network in MY house, they in fact are trespassing and deserve what they get! You can pick up satellite broadband signals in your house too. Heck, you can pick up signals from satellite television too. And they are all radio signals! Try accessing both of those without express permission and see where that gets you....
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 ROCINANTEOriginal Member 007Premium
join:1999-06-29
Hartsdale, NY | reply to Anomus
The odds will rise tomorrow after you are reported.
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 Jon GebWal-Mart Sucks
join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI
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I changed a password too on an unsecured router so it couldnt be messed with. I have since stoped using it though and changed it back... There were like 25 people leeching on it. |
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| So anonymous and Jon here think that changing the web admin password is securing the setup, lol. Anonymous is saying that his neighbors are condoning his action because he has changed their web admin passwords (they let them). I think if you discussed with your neighbors that some may actually say no to it. I don't think he secured the APs and provided the new encryption keys/SSIDs to them |
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 calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | reply to envoid
Yeah, yeah....
This is like an apartment building complaining about people standing under their port-cochere when it rains. Without "No Trespassing" signs posted, even if there is enforcement action by authorities there won't be convictions.
Saying that people should be able to leave WiFi hotspots open without anyone using them is like saying I should be able to walk any street in America alone and unarmed at 2:00 am. Nice concept, perhaps, but far from reality.
People need to learn that government can't protect you from everything.
calvoiper
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Jon GebWal-Mart Sucks
join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI | reply to Jon Geb
The AP wasnt secured, I just didnt want someone changing settings and crashing the AP. My method was 99% harmless considering everything was set to default signaling that the end user has no idea what they are doing. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | reply to calvoiper
The article ignored one thing ... There have been people arrested for this type of thing for "unauthorized access to a computer system". The article didn't mention this aspect at all; 'kinda treated using your neighbors' wireless access as something cutesy, like taking the morning newspaper sometimes from their driveway.
I don't know how those arrests ended up, but at least in some locales, the officials don't take them lightly. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Yeah, yeah, twice over.
I've seen the story about two guys being arrested for using an unsecured WiFi hotspot at a "big box" retailer in Minneapolis or someplace about 35 times.
What everybody forgets to mention is that the reason they were pursued, apprehended, and charged was that they used the access they got to hack the financial transaction systems of the retailer and stole using that method. The "unauthorized access" charges were just gravy added to the mix--but sensationalistic media hypers ignore or obscure that aspect.
To further the analogy--somebody probably has been charged for trespass for borrowing the porte-cochere of a building as shelter--but only in the context of some greater crime they committed there, like vandalism, robbery, burglary, or theft.
calvoiper
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