Wi-Fi Freeloader Arrested > What Is A Crime?

reply to Scilicet

Re: What Is A Crime?

Here's the question. You can receive those signals, but can you decode them? Think about military band GPS and satellite TV. Both signals are legal to receive but not legal to use without express permission.
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reply to barnett25
And legally you know this because you are a lawyer? you have a friend that is? you assume? what? What makes you a legal expert on the subject or what you can and can't do with air waves?

I could give a rats ass less what one thinks they can do or not do with WiFi access. My only thought is that people are low life scum for freeloading from someone else - period. ESPECIALLY when one doesn't plan or care to purchase their own.

The actual debate of if it's legal or not? I could care less.

What makes me laught he most is that people here seem to think they know the law when it's clearly not defined.

There is ONE thing, that I will tell you that HAS been defined as legal or not - If you are in someone's network and poke around where you are not supposed to, I'd be carefull or stock up on lube and plan to spend time away from your family or home for a while.

Just remember that the very same box that acts as a gateway also can give you access to someone else's computer or network and getting in that area is VERY dangerous to your freedom.

One thing, specifically to you Barnett, no one is 'intentionally' sending radio waves on to your property. You're just getting the fall out. What I have a question to ask you is "are you smart enough to know which is your router and which is your neighbors? Are you capable of knowing the name of your router vs. others? If you don't have a router, are you capable to know NOT to connect to any of them because none of them are yours? Do you know that, if you don't subscribe, that you don't HAVE internet access at all TO connect to? Are you intelligent or aware that internet access IS a subscription service in this country unless there is a specific place/entity offering it?" I think you will be surprised that many of the questions I just asked are going be the very questions asked in court should it come to this.

reply to marigolds
I'm not sure.
What I think is funny is a radio scanner law that says that it is legal to listen to broadcasts, but it is illegal to tell anyone else what you heard! So it's hard to tell what the laws are relating to this...

reply to marigolds

Re: What Is A Crime?

reply to fiberguy
so many message were deleted because? Why doesn't anyone speak up? If they can do it to a few people, their going to do to us next when it's convenient.

... because I asked them to delete them.. a particular user decided to attack me, and added nothing to the forum topic, and I asked for the posts to be removed. Since they didn't get removed, I attacked back in public.

It got the job done. Conversations here get heated and to ME, that's fine. I could care less if someone says I am wacked in my views and opinions just so long as someone contributes something to the topic at hand. We all will dissagree at times, but to simply attack another member here for pure entertainment? Well, it shows that someone here has nothing better to do, or is purely brave while sitting in their protective apartment behind a keyboard and internet connection instead of saying such things to someone's face.

reply to fiberguy

So, someone leaves their front door open, it's ok to go in and use their home and to be a nice guy, you will lock their door and change the locks too, right?

Again, you miss the point and I could really care less to get involved in another one of 12,000 threads about is it right or wrong to use someone's connection that you don't pay for or own.

My point is plain and simple, but you too over looked, people here are talkinga bout what's legal and not when it's clear that there really is no law defined, yet.

However, what you are doing by making changes to their network router? I can guarantee you that if you were caught, you'd be facing Johnny law. I believe this is preying on the weak?

This has to be the worst example of justifying bad behaviour ever.

reply to fiberguy
Not all internet access is a paid service, look at Panera bread, or even getting free WIFI from a library! You have to accept the terms from Panera, but it is not like you have to sign up at the library for internet access before you are given any credentials to access the web. You are just ranting and seem to have nothing worthwhile to contribute to the topic other than you not liking WIFI freeloaders. Define WIFI freeloaders, please. Also, define for me part 15 of the FCC rules. Whine all you want, I still think that the real issue is the morons not bothering to set up the security on the routers. Don't make a law because people are too lazy, make a law for the great good. I remember when computers were for hobbyists, not for soccer mom's checking horoscopes on the web.

Tell you what, you push to get a law making any sort of WIFI freeloading illegal, and I'll push for every citizen in the US to have the right to bear nuclear weapons because of our 2nd amendment rights. What would you think if the airheaded blonde that lives next door to you just bought a nuke because it was new, hip, and finally obtainable for someone like him/her? Would you feel comfortable?