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Re: What Is A Crime? said by waldoooo: using someone else's connection without permission is stealing whether or not its secure. If I park my car on the street and accidentally leave it unlocked, does that make it right for someone walking by to take my laptop on the seat? Signal theft is wrong, its taking something you are not paying for..... Bad analogy. Have your car parked with a sign that says, "take a ride for free" is more apt. If you don't want your car driven don't put up the sign. The same goes for wireless routers. Really people, all you have to do is assign a username and password to gain access to your bandwidth. It's that simple. You don't want anybody in you don't give them the access credentials.
Now when someone hacks into your bandwidth IN SPITE of you closing the AP then you definitely have something that should be illegal. The thing is there are people who actually don't mind others using their bandwidth and purposely keep their AP open on the router just for that. |
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 marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM join:2002-05-13 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | Is the default username and password still securing?
Because that is what you are looking at for the vast majority of unintentionally open APs now... a router configured with a default username and password opening them up to easily bypassing any existing encryption. -- ISCABBS - the oldest and largest BBS on the Internet telnet://whip.isca.uiowa.edu Professional Geographer Geographic Information Science researcher |
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 | I don't think a default open system can be considered secured. From what I can tell the default user name is...well... "default" or something similar and the password is blank when you get the router. Creating some sort of access ID with a password would change all of that and would mean you would have to know the user login and password in order to gain access to the bandwidth.
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 Michieru2zzz zzz zzzPremium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL 1 edit | Once you gain access to a wireless network the first thing to do will be to run a LAN sniffer. You don't need to access the router's administration page to be able to surf the web and such either.
Wireless is insecure, and there are ways to prevent a signal from being picked up or even blocking out users you don't want on your network. All these "come on in!" comments are basically talking about the router broadcasting itself. This can be turned off and from there you will need a passive scanner to detect the access point let alone get it's name before you can even join it. Even yet this is not security, this is simply playing hide and go seek.
Another option will be to use encryption WEP is not secure and be cracked in only minutes to seconds. Most likely I would suggest WAP2 which for now has no known exploits or cracks beside dictionary attacks. Even then it's possible to get in. That's why you begin only allowing the MAC addresses which are able to access the router. Which provides also some level of security.
You might also want to go static instead of DHCP. If you have like 3 computers simply tell the router to allow only 3 IP's. Anything else should have no need to access the network.
Either way wireless has been proven to be insecure and should only be used if monitored by someone who knows what there doing. But most people just plug it in set there computers to connect to "linksys" and the router handles everything from there. The
P.S When I say router I mean it as a wireless router. |
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 | reply to SRFireside It is more akin to painting your bike lime green with a spray paint can and leaving it unlocked in the cities that have implemented the bike sharing system and then saying "it was never my intent for my bike to be a communal bike."
(for those who are not familiar with the community bicyle programs, see »www.ibike.org/encouragement/freebike.htm#usa)
Many routers even give you the ability to keep your wifi channels bandwith down and give the system a protected channnel so that your system doesn't grind to a crawl when you choose to participate in such a give away. |
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