Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... in Digital Imaging

said by vapochilled

said by tmpchaos

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I won't argue with them though as the transit police in most countries are pretty much untouchable! I know that in the UK, they have more power than the normal police in many instances.

They have pretty big guns on them at all times unlike the police. And all of this in D.C., forget other countries. ;)
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said by tmpchaos

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It's part of the posted rules and regulations of the PATH system. A short form is in every station, which I assume provides 'proper notification' as to the coditions of use of the service.

»panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/path/···ons.html

Brainless, you are of course right, as we're the blacks regarding equal opportunity and women with the right to vote. Unfortunately they had to resort to matters other than the vote, no one will vote against this, as it is conceived to be of "national importance".
I took my daughter to the park today, she's three months old and was being pushed in her buggy by my wife. I went to take a photo and stopped, not because it was not a great shot, but because I was too concerned with people's children behind her!!! What the hell has happened that makes me NOT take a photo of my baby and wife, because of other people, assuming I'm some kind of monster! It's just a very sad reflection on life.

TMPCHAOS,
So I can't have a coffee either! fairly Draconian rules and regs there. I won't argue with them though as the transit police in most countries are pretty much untouchable! I know that in the UK, they have more power than the normal police in many instances.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15767238 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:44:51 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15767144 tmpchaos : It's part of the posted rules and regulations of the PATH system. A short form is in every station, which I assume provides 'proper notification' as to the coditions of use of the service.

»panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/path/···ons.html
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First, your camera equipment will get slammed along with your body. Second, no one that is watching is going to understand a thing. They will just look at you like some kind of crackpot that the cops had to drag off in cuffs.

The way to change things is to vote for people that will stand up for our rights when they are challenged. To write or call those that are in position to make a change.

If a cop asks you to move on, you move on. If you say no, what position do you think you just put that cop in? He has no choice but to either make you move on or take you away in cuffs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15767038 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:49:56 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15767017 Jason Levine :

said by EGeezer

That's just what I was thinking while reading this thread. My cell phone (LG8100) has a 1.3 Megapixel camera and video capabilities. I can send pics instantly via e-mail. (Never have, but it has that capability.) It also let's me turn off the "click" sound that the camera phone normally makes. This would make it a perfect "phantom photo" camera for a terrorist to use. Especially if the police are busy at the other end of the station harassing the guy with the huge DSLR and backpack full of lenses/filters.
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said by EGeezer

said by richk_1957

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These days, if they can't figure out a answer to something, the general reason is that 'it's terrorism related'

Definitely agree - We went to a spring training ballpark in FL to scout a game last year and they said I couldn't bring in my water bottle "due to the tragic events of 9/11". What a crock of crap - they just wanted to rip be $2.50 for their own stuff.

I feel for the many good cops and field agents who get these stupid directives handed down from higherups, supposed "experts" in counter-terrorism. They have to waste so much time on this stuff. The real troops don't like it, the Charlie Chaplin types with power trip visions relish it.

There's so much of that goes on! and the annoying part is that as soon as someone mentions terrorism or patriotism, they just go quiet and let it roll, sucking up whatever rip off is being handed to them.
there's a world of difference between being patriotic and being stupid because someone mentions the word "terror"!
I kinda wonder where it will end? we'll have less freedoms than the people we're spending billions on trying to eradicate,lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15766857 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:15:09 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15766234 EGeezer :

said by richk_1957

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These days, if they can't figure out a answer to something, the general reason is that 'it's terrorism related'

said by EGeezer

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If their reason for no photos is terrorism related, they are dumber than a box of rocks.

And who said they weren't dumb to begin with??

These days, if they can't figure out a answer to something, the general reason is that 'it's terrorism related']]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15766186 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:53:06 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15766078 sykocus :

said by Stacy

said by tmpchaos

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Did you ask if one would be kind enough to hold you camera bag?

I know this sounds terrible but.. I'm tired of trying to charm my way through a shoot when I have every right to be there. I'd much rather save my charm for times when I need to overstep my bounds :D

could have said something like "could ya move to the right? you're in my shot" :p
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said by EGeezer

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If their reason for no photos is terrorism related, they are dumber than a box of rocks. Cellphones now have multi-mpxel capability and the quality is getting much better. They'd have to stop every doofus chimping the screen on his/her cellphone to ensure they were looking at a txtmsg or missed call and not snapping shots.

Too much of this so-called "security" is for show, press releases and feelgood spin, and provides no practical deterrent or prevention. But, the public buys it as "protection against terrorism" and lets slip one more small loss of freedom and privacy at the behest of the politicians.

seems so many know it, yet very few want to do anything about it? Approached for taking pics in times square! FFS people wake up, the coffee smell is overpowering,lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15766052 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:26:56 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765931 EGeezer : If their reason for no photos is terrorism related, they are dumber than a box of rocks. Cellphones now have multi-mpxel capability and the quality is getting much better. They'd have to stop every doofus chimping the screen on his/her cellphone to ensure they were looking at a txtmsg or missed call and not snapping shots.

Too much of this so-called "security" is for show, press releases and feelgood spin, and provides no practical deterrent or prevention. But, the public buys it as "protection against terrorism" and lets slip one more small loss of freedom and privacy at the behest of the politicians.
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said by alg

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This has got me wondering... if it is ok to use a P/S as a tourist but an SLR makes you a terrorist, then what would be the response if I were to use say my medium format TLR?

Then sir, you would be on the FBIs top 10 wanted list as the master criminal you surely are! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765836 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:46:03 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765331 alg : This has got me wondering... if it is ok to use a P/S as a tourist but an SLR makes you a terrorist, then what would be the response if I were to use say my medium format TLR?
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i thought it was ironic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15765303 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:12:10 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764640 dibbb : This may sounds like a stupid question now-a-days, but does anyone know if you can take pics or video in an airport?

I'm going on vacation soon and was hoping to make a little video showing a few clips of everything from us packing, in the airport, on vacation, etc...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764640 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:37:03 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764594 Tekkanano : I was in the the underground subway in D.C. about a year ago and was about to take a picture of my 2 friends when a guy in the booth near me hush to me not to take pictures and pointed at the 2 soldiers with BIG guns near the booth, so I simply put away my Canon A75 with fears of getting shot at, lol. It's not even a DSLR!!! :(

Of course, allowing terrorists to take pictures of the subway will make their job easier if they do plan to blow it up. But, if the terrorists are determined, they don't need a camera, they have a really special tool like everyone else, it's called "eyes", lol.
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said by richk_1957

said by HardwareGeek

said by tmpchaos

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Photography has been prohibited without permit on the PATH system for years. I discovered it was also not permitted on NJTransit property when I tried last year. The MTA permits it, but the subway cops may or may not be informed about the current rules. I don't know what Amtrak's rules are. It's certainly becoming a more hostile world for photographers.

MTA doesn't permit it anymore. Those new rules they approved last year. One of them was no pictures.

I knew that the MTA had proposed such a rule, but I thought it never made it. Is there any way to confirm this?

The rule never became a reality but NYPD has been enforcing it anyway. NY1 has run several stories on this. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764475 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:02:07 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764201 vapochilled :

said by javaMan

said by jordan f

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Glad you see the officer was friendly and understanding. Still, to require a permit to photography...that just rubs me the wrong way.

. . .

Like I said earlier, this country no longer has freedom of speech or expression. I've been lucky enough to work around the world, including the middle east, and they have far less ridiculous laws on photography!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15764201 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:06:25 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15763902 whizkid3 : I've taken many, many pictures of cops. The trick is to ask them if you can take their picture first. They almost always oblige, and you can get some great shots of cops hamming it up. (Of course this won't help if you need a candid shot.)

A good rule of thumb when shooting people, is if they ask you to stop - respect their wishes. That being said, you should fear nothing when shooting in public places - its your right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15763902 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:04:41 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15763642 javaMan :

said by jordan f

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Glad you see the officer was friendly and understanding. Still, to require a permit to photography...that just rubs me the wrong way.

. . .

I agree but it's probably something that would hold up on appeal. No one questions the requirement to obtain a permit to assemble anymore. But what would Jefferson have thought about it do you suppose?
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said by HardwareGeek

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MTA doesn't permit it anymore. Those new rules they approved last year. One of them was no pictures.

Including Times Square and Grand Central, and being a foreigner (Canadian), I must be in BIG trouble with the choice picts I've attached here! :D

The secret to not attracting attention and still getting the shot? Use a small digital P&S, turn off the flash and zoom out completly. This will allow you to shoot just about anywhere in surprisingly low light conditions.

It's true that security officials are extremely misguided on what constitutes a threat. As was mentioned, the P&S camera is the perfect terrorist tool. Along with general location shots, you could discreetly take a picture of a local map giving you all the strategic locations where you could conduct a terrorist attack.

It's funny. Photographing a police officer in most countries can get you in big trouble. But in Canada, try to get a picture of you and your family standing next to an RCMP officer in full dress uniform, and a few other officers may join in on the fun, one of them on a horse! :)

For more picts and a complete report of my trip to NYC last summer, go to »www.milnoc.com/NYC .

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said by HardwareGeek

said by tmpchaos

MTA doesn't permit it anymore. Those new rules they approved last year. One of them was no pictures.

I knew that the MTA had proposed such a rule, but I thought it never made it. Is there any way to confirm this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15763172 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:35:20 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15762522 alg : I am not one pull out the lawyer card, however this is definitely a time when a lawsuit is needed. As has been pointed out, photographers are not breaking any laws, and even places where it is illegal practice double standards - as has been pointed out here. Furthermore it is arguable whether taking pictures is of any value at all considering these "targets" are freely accesible to anyone anyway - what's stopping a bad guy from taking highly descriptive notes of the place instead of pictures?
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Know your rights.
»abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?secti···=4012289

If you are in a public place you should never be hassled.

I have been to many countries where photography is Banned in many places. The point here is this is not a third world marxist African country fearing attack. This is the USA (at least this case is)
As long as you didn't have any illegal items or substances on your person you have nothing to fear. Did you ask which law you were breaking? Did you ask to see his supervisor? How can they have a double standard? How do they tell the locals form the tourists?
What a bunch of BS.

Yaesumofo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15762374 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:19:12 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15762126 onehuman : That's kinda weird... I'll have to talk to some of my transit PD friends here in Boston. I think that probably started around the time of the DNC. Wonder if it's the case in every T station now. Too bad, there's a lot of good people shots to be had in South Station. I don't see how having a permit would be much of a deterrent to terrorists either... most of those guys are here under false identities anyway.
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said by HardwareGeek

said by tmpchaos

MTA doesn't permit it anymore. Those new rules they approved last year. One of them was no pictures.

is that actually legal? I mean the photo ban?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15762040 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:18:41 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15761979 HardwareGeek :

said by tmpchaos

MTA doesn't permit it anymore. Those new rules they approved last year. One of them was no pictures.
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said by Gbcue

said by JRSlater8

said by vapochilled

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How about a mass rally of photographers, snapping en-mass somewhere? :)

I like this idea. Get twenty thousand amateur and pro photographers together in one place and see if there will be two images the same. LOL Oh, and I do like the protest idea. :)

Flash-mob. No pun intended.

:D :D ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15761409 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:56:40 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15760797 Gbcue :

said by JRSlater8

said by vapochilled

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How about a mass rally of photographers, snapping en-mass somewhere? :)

I like this idea. Get twenty thousand amateur and pro photographers together in one place and see if there will be two images the same. LOL Oh, and I do like the protest idea. :)

Flash-mob. No pun intended.
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»/showpic/dimag···5413&1=1
(Thank you Ispark)

I mean they stated that they don't bother the tourist and folks with P&S cameras. HELLO! I think terrorists are capable of of using a P&S. Hell, they would probably use a throw away if the are planing to do a suicide bombing - no sense in spending lots on a camera if you aren't going to be around to use it.

"Never under-estimate the power of human stupidity"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15758061 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:46:23 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15757716 JRSlater8 :
said by vapochilled :

How about a mass rally of photographers, snapping en-mass somewhere? :)

I like this idea. Get twenty thousand amateur and pro photographers together in one place and see if there will be two images the same. LOL Oh, and I do like the protest idea. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15757716 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:28:14 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15757090 Splitpair :
said by bostechie :

Yesterday I planned my day around going to Boston's South Station (Amtrak) to photograph trains and people disembarking from them. Before I could get in the door I was stopped by an AMTRAK police officer who asked, "you're not planning to take photos in the station, are you?". I replied, "Well, yes I was." He informed me that I could not do so and if I did my camera would be confiscated,(not good).
Nothing new about that. Having photographed trains all over the country I have learned train dicks are some of the least informed LEO's when it comes to what is legal or not.
Last year I was shooting a train vs. car wreck when I had a railroad cop order me to stop shooting or face being arrested. I not being in the best of moods that day and not standing on railroad property told him to blow it out his a**. I then walked away from him and resumed shooting. He paused then yelled over to a nearby Sheriffs deputy for assistance and both of them began walking toward me. I could clearly hear the railroad cop telling the deputy that he ordered me to stop shooting and that I “mouthed back” to him why he didn‘t tell the deputy what I actually said I do not know. They approched me and the deputy asked me what I was doing and I explained I am a freelance photographer and was photographing the accident with the intent of selling the photographs. He then asked for and received my ID copied some info from it made a quick check on the radio handed my ID back and advised me to stay on public property keep moving and there will be no problems. He then turned to the railroad cop and asked what do you want me to do the guys legal? End of story.

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The sad thing is that they are not mindful of things where it counts very often!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756884 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:24:38 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756856 mromero : Yep, same thing happened to me and a couple of my friends while attempting to shoot at the train station. Was told it was because of the threat of terrorism.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756856 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:03:52 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756843 Stacy :
said by tmpchaos :

Did you ask if one would be kind enough to hold you camera bag?

I know this sounds terrible but.. I'm tired of trying to charm my way through a shoot when I have every right to be there. I'd much rather save my charm for times when I need to overstep my bounds :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756843 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:56:20 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756823 tmpchaos : Did you ask if one would be kind enough to hold you camera bag?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756823 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:45:31 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756814 Stacy :
said by tmpchaos :

Photography has been prohibited without permit on the PATH system for years. I discovered it was also not permitted on NJTransit property when I tried last year. The MTA permits it, but the subway cops may or may not be informed about the current rules. I don't know what Amtrak's rules are. It's certainly becoming a more hostile world for photographers.

Twenty years ago I did some freelance work for New York State DOT so I was in and about Grand Central Station and drove up to Croton on Hudson where I got down on the AMTRAK and Metro North tracks to photograph workers. No credentials but nobody questioned my authority to be there.

Earlier this week I was shooting in Times Square when I was approached by a couple of cops near the recruiting center who wanted to know "if they could help me." There certainly are no laws against shooting in Times Square but New York's Finest certainly know how to encourage you to move on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756814 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:41:14 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756769 eXodus : What gets me is if you can see it, why cant you photograph it? What if I had a photographic memory and could draw it perfectly later? Ignorance these days ugh...
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He was not much of a talker.

What gets me not this board but another one I was getting called names and crazy... It's really a reality you have to be very careful of what and were you photograph now a days.
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Playing Table Tennis is not a matter of life or Death, It's much more important than that. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15756710 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:52:11 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755512 vapochilled : I was in Hoboken with the camera today.. never saw you,lol!
All it requires is some common sense being applied, but it seems it's just easier to put in place these illegal bans and rely on the fact that people will not argue!
How about a mass rally of photographers, snapping en-mass somewhere? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755512 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:43:42 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755414 tmpchaos : Photography has been prohibited without permit on the PATH system for years. I discovered it was also not permitted on NJTransit property when I tried last year. The MTA permits it, but the subway cops may or may not be informed about the current rules. I don't know what Amtrak's rules are. It's certainly becoming a more hostile world for photographers.
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***ATMFAQ***DIFAQ***Kitchen Sink***]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755414 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:28:45 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755105 vapochilled : Arhh, god bless the ignorance that guides these idiots into trying to enforce illegal laws!
Just did a quick google for south boston station images...many hundreds came up, not all useful to a would be terrorist intent on terror,lol
It's a shame these people were not so careful on 9/11, we would not have to deal with their brain dead ideas now!
It's also a shame that the laws don't protect you more when you are within the law here! any "civilized" country and an officer who behaved in that manner would be very quickly out of a job! Here it's a trait they actively seek!
There was another thread similar to this one I think a few days ago here, about photogs rights. Going to be an issue more and more I think here. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15755105 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:35:52 EDT Re: Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15754181 jordan f : Glad you see the officer was friendly and understanding. Still, to require a permit to photography...that just rubs me the wrong way.

I've had a similar experience when I was out shooting in public streets on Halloween. A wonderful photo presented itself to me (officers against neon lights surrounded by girls dressed like prostitutes) and i began snapping. Immediately one of the officers approached me in a very confrontational manner and demanded that I ask for permission before taking his picture - his tone was very, very threatening and he spoke with very few words. I knew I had the right to be shooting and continued to take the photos. Then he got right up in my face like some street thug would do and threatened me some more. He told me the officers were 'undercover' (yet...all of them were dressed in uniform..) and that i just violated the law. i laughed at him and walked away, knowing that he wasn't worth my time and that i already got the shot.
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For sale: Sigma 15mm f/2.8 fisheye for Canon]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15754181 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:00:26 EDT Stopped by police- You can't photograph here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15754018 bostechie : Yesterday I planned my day around going to Boston's South Station (Amtrak) to photograph trains and people disembarking from them. Before I could get in the door I was stopped by an AMTRAK police officer who asked, "you're not planning to take photos in the station, are you?". I replied, "Well, yes I was." He informed me that I could not do so and if I did my camera would be confiscated,(not good).

Now I didn't get in his face arguing or anything and in all fairness his manner was quite non-confrontational - actually nice. He went on to inform me I could get a permit to photograph through the MBTA (our transit authority) police.

We continued to chat a bit about the whole restriction and he even agreed it was ill conceived. I asked him how they handled tourists and he said, we're not supposed to bother them. I replied, YIKES! They're the people you have to watch. I mean what terrorist is going to draw all sorts of attention to himself lugging around an expensive DSLR camera, zoom lenses, and a tripod? It's the guy you think is a tourist who is more likely to be scoping the joint with his little point and shoot. He laughed in agreement, but said, "I just follow my orders." And I respect that he is doing his job regardless of the fact that I don't agree with the policy.

Anyway, the cop and I had a nice chat about it and I agreed to get the necessary permit. He even apologized for the hassle. We shook hands and I went on my way.

Has anyone else had a similar experience and how did it go for you?
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"Life is too important to be taken seriously" - Oscar Wilde]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15754018 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:38:12 EDT