Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. in Central Texas

Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. in Central Texas http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15817623 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:01:51 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:01:51 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962023 bassthumpa :

said by alg

said by Corona

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Oh, and BTW TxKent

, when you're stopped in traffic, you're getting ZERO MPG.

Actually that is incorrect.

Somebody needs to go back to basic math.
0 / ANYTHING = 0
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said by alg

said by Corona

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Oh, and BTW TxKent

, when you're stopped in traffic, you're getting ZERO MPG.

Actually that is incorrect.

is it?

Average MPG = distance travelled (miles) / fuel consumed (gallons).

If you sit in traffic for 30 minutes, traveling zero miles, while consuming fuel, you're getting zero miles per gallon. (unless you've invented a way to divide by zero)
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said by Corona

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Oh, and BTW TxKent

, when you're stopped in traffic, you're getting ZERO MPG.

Actually that is incorrect.
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Whenever I'm in Dallas, I use them. Why? BECAUSE 90% OF THE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE FREE ROADS ARE TOO CHEAP TO USE THEM.

So - when toll roads come in, all you cheapies just sit there in the free lanes while I zoom by you all in the toll roads.

Oh, and BTW TxKent

, when you're stopped in traffic, you're getting ZERO MPG.
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I keep wondering - "who is getting rich off this deal?"
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said by j9_ls1

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quit being vague...I think that you are not clear enough, and that is the why people doubt you.

I doubt Sal because he twists the truth to suit his agenda. Then if you try to honestly debate him, he either accuses you of being on the take in the toll road conspiracy or just not knowing the "true facts" as those who dwell in the "muck" (such as himself) do! :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889821 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:22:41 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15888343 j9_ls1 : quit being vague. There are several toll roads currently being contstucted in Austin that are NOT from our tax dollars. It is bonded money. For instance, the MOPAC extension, 183a, are bonded, not from our pockets. I think that you are not clear enough, and that is the why people doubt you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15888343 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:48:15 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15821635 imacsal : Who are you kidding. I never had your support.

In Austin, we don't get new free roads like Williamson County.

Hundreds of millions of our tax dollars have gone into right of way, construction and utility relocation to permanently take sections of our free expressways:

MOPAC
183
290
71
360 (still in the toll plan)

You can thank these crooks for tolls on roads we've already paid for:
»www.texastollparty.com/looters_c···ters.php
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None of these are "tollable" roads.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15821571 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:10:39 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15821316 imacsal : For two years Travis County has been told, by the powers that be, that we must toll our freeways because there is no more money for free roads. Yet somehow, over the same two years, Williamson County has been given numerous free roads, without toll booths:

• FM 1660 from CR 134 to CR 101
• IH-35/SH 29 Interchange turnaround structures
• US 79 from east city limits of Hutto to CR 402
• US 79 from east of Taylor to the Milam county line
• RM 2338 from FM 3405 to Ronald Reagan Boulevard and
• US 183 from San Gabriel River to SH 29. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15821316 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 19:32:35 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15818149 McSummation : Name the "several" roads. Roads that are not being paid for by my Williamson County taxes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15818149 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:10:25 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817997 imacsal : Pleanty of free roads for WilCo have been approved by CAMPO over the past 2 years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817997 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:46:14 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817888 McSummation : What free roads are being built in Williamson County that are being funded by Travis County money?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817888 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:26:44 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817821 imacsal : TX 130, TX 45, 183A are all NEW routes. The only tolls being placed on existing freeway's take place in Travis County.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817821 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:14:40 EDT Re: Austin Toll Roads to fund Williamson County Freeways. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15817809 McSummation : This is not an argument. However, what "free roads" are being built in Williamson County? There are plenty of these damnable toll roads inside Williamson County, to wit - TX 130, TX 45, 183A.
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Travis County Commissioners, Judge Sam Biscoe and Gerald Daugherty are asking that Travis County citizens be able to vote on a plan that tolls our Austin's freeways.

Of course we should be able to vote on these freeway tolls. Traditional toll roads in our country have been whole new route's designed and built as toll roads and the money collected funds the road you drive on.

Austin's toll plan privatizes and tolls our freeways and the money collected goes into a slush fund, since the roads are already paid for.

The opposition of allowing us to vote on tolls comes from Williamson County officials. Williamson County will syphon toll tax dollars from Travis County citizens for the benefit of Williamson County freeways.

There are a host of disturbing inequities for Austin and Travis County: For two years Travis County has been told, by the powers that be, that we must toll our freeways because there is no more money for free roads. Yet somehow, over the same two years, Williamson County has been given numerous free roads, without toll booths. Amazing.

The toll plan has 100% of the tolls on current freeways placed in Travis County. 0% of Williamson Countyï¿½€™s current freeway's will have tolls on them. Zero.

It gets more absurd. Even though Travis County has three times the population than Williamson County, the majority of the toll authority board is made up of Williamson County people. Four of the seven are from Williamson County. The enabling legislation for the freeway tolling authority, a whole new layer of bureaucracy was created by Williamson County's Mike Krusee. And of course, the executive director of the toll authority is Williamson County's Mike Heiligenstein.

Before he was executive director, Mike Heiligenstein was a Williamson County Commissioner who focused on getting more freeway built for Williamson County. Heiligenstein voted to create the toll authority. Heiligenstein also named and voted for the Williamson folks who he wanted as toll authority board members.

Those board members Heiligenstein selected - later thanked Heiligenstein by hiring him for the $130,000 a year plus perks executive director position.

The Comptroller's report found these same board members giving No Bid ï¿½€œgas tax dollarï¿½€ contracts to themselves and their friends. In 2005 Comptroller demanded that chairman Robert Tesch and board member Johanna Zmud resign because of conflicts of interests. A year has passed and the two board members continue to refused to resign. (»www.window.state.tx.us/news/50309ctrma.html) The Comptroller's in-depth investigative report calls the toll plan ï¿½€œDouble Taxation without Accountabilityï¿½€ (»www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/ctrma05/).

Records show, Mike Heiligenstein was divorced by his wife Anne in 2004, and she filed papers in Williamson County to garnish Heiligenstein's toll authority (CTRMA) wages for child support. If Heiligenstein can't be trusted to give money to his own kid's he'll have no problem funneling Travis toll tax dollars for free roads in Williamson County.

Since the Austin roads are already paid for, the toll revenue collected will go into a slush fund the Williamson County toll authority controls. Revenue collected in Travis County will be controlled and spent by those in Williamson County.

All the blame does not lie with the Williamson County crooks. Austin and Travis representatives voted for this unaccountable scam and ignored 93% of the public feedback that told them to vote NO on the double tax tolls. Here's the list of who voted FOR tolls on roads we've already paid for: Mayor Will Wynn, Councilmember Brewster McCracken, Rep. Mark Strama, County Commissioner Gerald Daugherty, Rep. Dawnna Dukes and more (make sure you remember them the next time you vote).

When you see the toll booths being built around Austin, just think about how they represent your $1,000ï¿½€™s of dollars a year helping Williamson County to build more free roads.

Sal Costello
Founder of AustinTollParty.com and People for Efficient Transportation
imacsal@aol.com
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