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Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks

reply to kamm
This is a Bush Appointed idiot..

Everything he says just pick the opposite..

Works with everyone so far.

ie. apparently no on can tell the truth.

Verizon deadlining non affluent homes.. Hog wash!

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Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it? Verizon is just hitting the communities that can afford it and have somewhat of a demand for it. It's well-known that people on welfare have better things to worry about than whether to have dial-up or fios, or even have a computer at all. I find what they're doing usual business, they're trying to make money on an extremely high-priced investment. They can't do it all at once, they need to find some demand, and the demand for a 40 dollar product is usually in middle-to-high income areas. Face it, money is the way to go for corporations.
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"Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it?"

Thank you for your racist / discriminatory comments move along now.
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Low-income. Okay, let's put this in definition form. It usually means it's an area that has a high crime rate (usually), many people unemployed, and many people on welfare. This isn't racism (I never went against one race, get it right please), nor is it anything else. I'm stating that they don't roll out in communities that they don't think can afford it, using state/federal statistics I assume, just for that reason. If they can't afford the product, why roll it out for a few users. I'm sure they need a good chunk of a city signed up to start profiting from the high-priced install pricing/fiber roll-out costs.
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reply to packetscan

reply to Insder
I don't care if an area is low income they deserve the same services as those in affluent areas.. It's the cost of doing business.

Racism / discrimination is not a justifiable business practice.
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reply to Hall


I never said anything of the sort..

Take your generalizations and shove off!

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This is the problem with the education system in this country.
Racism isn't a black and white thing. Racism isn't a green and blue thing. It's about discriminating against someone because of where they live, work, how they eat.
Get an education then come back and post some serious content on the matter.

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reply to packetscan

reply to packetscan
Racism, as defined by wikipedia, is "Racism refers to a belief system that advocates discriminating against people based on a perceived or ascribed "race"". I never stated any kind of minority. I understand that Verizon needs to rollout all areas, they get this too. The problem here is, this isn't telephone over copper, where the infrastructure is there. They need to do all new fiber optic cables, which is a high-priced job. If the investors cannot expect a profit soon, or even at all, the whole project is gone. They need to do this in areas that will buy it, and even do a triple-play if they're lucky. They can't roll it out, and have low percentage of the town that CAN afford it, get it. Also, I do not see you complaining about users of DSL that are past 18,000 feet, and thus cannot get DSL. Large parts of low-income towns without a nearby DSLAM are like this. It's all business, and since FIOS isn't yet government regulated like telephone over copper, it's Verizon's call. I agree with them in the sense that they can make a very good profit in higher-income areas with more users to subscribe. It's not any type of racism (never mentioned race either), it's all about who can and cannot afford it. Verizon looks at statistics, just like I can, and I'm sure they decide where to roll out based on subscriber base. So go shove your racist accusations somewhere else, because it's sure as hell not wanted here.
Edit: Add in a few missed words, for clarity.
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reply to soulcatch6
What does not screwing poor people have to do with being liberal you prick.

You seem like you need a tinfoil hat.

They're not getting screwed, I'm saying that the whole point of them rolling it out is for profit, it's simple business. If they can't expect a profit, then they need to roll out in areas where they can get a profit, so the lower-income areas will be able to have it, and thus they can have it done and at a slight loss.
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reply to packetscan
Packet - it's nice to be affluent. Try it sometime. Pound sand with your racism comment. Or wait around and have some affirmative action committee design some kind of program to make you some kind of victim. You can have someone feel sorry for you then. Get somebody else to buy you the sand and then another somebody else to buy you something to pound it with.

reply to soulcatch6
Listen you little Prick..

While all my friends on the other side of town had dsl i had nothing.. Then Optonline came to town and wired the ENTIRE town. Everyone that could afford it had the service. My parents busted their asses to give my brother and i everything they could. I want to make sure that people like me have access to services just like the other side of town.

Get it now?
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reply to Insder

Again all you have done is divert attention away from the problem.

Go Astro another forum.
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reply to Linklist

reply to packetscan
Cry more noob

reply to packetscan
Wow, give me a sad story. So, if you're so poor, where'd you pull the money for premium BBR (something I don't even have?). Also, I'm pretty sure if you had cable television, then Opt Online didn't have to "wire" the whole town, the wires were there, they just had to light it up. Plus the fact that coax is a lot cheaper than fiber optic cabling, the same goes for installs (modem vs. ONT/BBU/free router). Fiber Optics costs more to deploy (someone tell me if I'm wrong, please). Nobody is going to feel sorry, and it's sad to say, the world is run on business. If Verizon wants a profit, they have to go somewhere where the residents can afford and pay for their high-end services (10 for dial-up vs. 40 for FIOS). It's a fact of life. There is no racism here, I'm not saying it sucks that you were poor or whatever, I just don't think that matters because business is money, and money is something most low-income cities don't have.
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