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JTRockville
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reply to Nerdtalker

Re: Should I Be Concerned About Download Cap

Here's the original:
»Comcast Bandwidth Exceeded Notice!!!

It was 5 stations, not a couple dozen. So I guess the streams can eventually be cause for concern.



dadkins
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#1 that was in 2003...

#2 OP never eludes to what else he was doing with his connection...

I think something was left out of the equation.
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JTRockville
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hqh510 See Profile estimated 50-100GB in addition to the streams.

So the streams seem to be what pushed hqh510 See Profile over the limit.


crcole

join:2003-01-28
Decatur, GA

I'm the OP and, wow, I think I'm a bit misunderstood

Really, my son is looking to listen to about 2 to 3 games a week, late nite, on his computer. He loves the Atlanta braves and we get bad A.M. reception at nite - thus the need for streaming.

No hidden agendas here in my post. I'm not interested in torrents, downloading porn, or being a burden to my neighbors in bandwidth usage.

Just hoping he could listen to the games and still feel like a good citizen of the web. So far, I'm thinking that everything is o.k., although a couple of posts have implied that maybe, just maybe there might be a problem.

I really appreciate the replys. I get a lot of info from this forum. I wish I could find some topic that I could help someone with in return. Let's see - I have Vonage, use a Mac and avoid Microsoft when possible and am passionate about Ga. Tech football. So, I think I'm pretty isolated.



cracker 52

@comcast.net

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I agree with dadkins that hqh 51 story about his connections and downloads wasn't complete or his guesstimates on the size of downloads were in error. It's quite preposterous to suggest that normal audio streaming of one source at a time would result in any abuse letters. But then preposterous notions are quite prevalent on this board. as conclusions are often driven by agendas rather than reality or logic.



JTRockville
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reply to crcole

said by crcole:

So far, I'm thinking that everything is o.k., although a couple of posts have implied that maybe, just maybe there might be a problem.
That's the situation most Comcast customers are in. Not much you can do but guess and hope.

Good luck.


dadkins
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reply to crcole

As I stated at the beginning of this thread... 27MB per game will *NOT* push you over any limit!

Tell your son to go ahead and enjoy his games!
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JTRockville
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Keep in mind though... "dadkins at BBR's Comcast Forum said it would be ok" probably won't get you too far, just in case it's a wrong guess.



dadkins
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LOL! If you think 324MB per month is going to flag someone, ya need to get a different calculator, or change the batteries in the one you're using.
I download game demos WAY larger than that! More often too!

27MB per game x 3 games per week = 81MB

81MB x 4 weeks per month = 324MB.

Not even 1/3 of a GB... No worries!
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JTRockville
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Comcast's caps vary by region. Do you live in the same region as the original poster?



audiostream

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reply to JTRockville

MILLIONS of customers have no problem streaming audio. doing the math listening to 3 games a week you will be under 1 gig a month. anyone that tells you you need to worry about 1 gig a month obviously has an agenda to lie to you. be careful of people that dont even have comcast HSI but come here just to post negative info everyday about them.

Everything ive read and seen people get letters for on here has been in excess of 100 gigs a month. some of these people are 600-900 gigs a month. doing the math that means they were downloading all day and night everyday. while they were sleeping they were downloading. from what your explaining thats not you, so I wouldnt worry 1 bit and let your son enjoy his games.



jansm38
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reply to JTRockville

But he's an "MVM"! That has to account for something, no?


Yeah, I know, that and a buck 85 will get you coffee at Starbucks.

said by JTRockville:

Keep in mind though... "dadkins at BBR's Comcast Forum said it would be ok" probably won't get you too far, just in case it's a wrong guess.


dadkins
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reply to JTRockville

LMAO! 324MB. Do you REALLY think that is going to push *ANY* Comcast customer over a limit? Any limit?

Tell ya what, download this:
»americasarmy.filefront.com/file/···26;56584

897.21MB... see if you get "The Letter".
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dadkins
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reply to jansm38

Disregard the MVM tag... do the math!
324MB is not going to raise any flags... for any Comcast customer, in any Comcast market.
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jansm38
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I totally agree. 100 times that won't raise any flags either.

There's a guy at work that just got nuked from Comcast, he was pulling upwards of 300g / month. He was of the mindset that believed that if he wasn't pulling max bandwidth 24x7 he wasn't getting his money's worth so he ignored the 2 warning shots. He quickly realized that it's speed, not volume, that Comcast is providing.

said by dadkins:

Disregard the MVM tag... do the math!
324MB is not going to raise any flags... for any Comcast customer, in any Comcast market.


JTRockville
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And for anyone who gets "lettered", remember to say that "dadkins" AND "jansm38" at BBR's Comcast Forum assured you it would be ok to download up to 600GB per month.



dadkins
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Ok JT, please point out where I stated ANYWHERE that it is alright to download 600GB!
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jansm38
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reply to JTRockville

600Gig? No way. 100 Gig and you're probably at the limit or at least on the radar. My friend got nuked at somewhere in the vicinity of 300G, I wouldn't recommend pushing 600G.

said by JTRockville:

And for anyone who gets "lettered", remember to say that "dadkins" AND "jansm38" at BBR's Comcast Forum assured you it would be ok to download up to 600GB per month.


JTRockville
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Well alright then. Would you be willing to say 300GB puts you at risk? or 200GB?

Reassuring someone, under these circumstances, gives a false impression that you're somehow "in the know" and should be trusted.

The truth is, we really don't know what's acceptable, do we?

100GB could be enough to get you "lettered" in some areas, or even 60GB, like it was for oliphant See Profile.



cracker 52

@comcast.net

You came up with two? Well, I must say that's overwhelming support of your contention that we Comcast users should shutter about how much audio streaming we are getting.



dadkins
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reply to JTRockville

No, that person(from reading his previous posts) would never have been able to reach 60GB. His connection, so he said, was never up long enough to download anything.

Whatever friend, OP of this thread asked about listening to 3 games per week. Using their numbers and my testing of the radio station's bitrate, it will net him 324MB per month of bandwidth.

There is no way that can violate anyone's AUP.
You tried to say that I oked 600GB... please(again) point out anywhere on this site I have ever stated that!

You can't! Never happened. Likely never will.
Now, what do you think I should tell the OP about what they asked?
Do you think 324MB is going to get them "The Letter"?
I sure don't!

I stand by my previous post.
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audiostream

@comcast.net
reply to JTRockville

Oliphant admitted to over 100 GB. most every letter on here ive seen was well over 100 GB. none of that has anything to do with trying to scare this guy and his family from listening to a few shows that add up to not even 1 GB.



jansm38
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reply to JTRockville

Well, since a very good friend was nuked at ~300G (by his estimation) I would have to say yes, that amount would put you at risk and I did say that 100 gig would probably put you on the radar.

I do remember something about the thread where someone said they got the letter @ 60Gig, I'd have to re-read it but something doesn't sound right with that one. I'm only doing about 30Gig / month so I don't know for sure.

It's probably safe to say that nobody ever got capped for listening to a couple of streaming ball games a week.

said by JTRockville:

Well alright then. Would you be willing to say 300GB puts you at risk? or 200GB?

Reassuring someone, under these circumstances, gives a false impression that you're somehow "in the know" and should be trusted.

The truth is, we really don't know what's acceptable, do we?

100GB could be enough to get you "lettered" in some areas, or even 60GB, like it was for oliphant See Profile.


JTRockville
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"probably"



JTRockville
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reply to audiostream

said by audiostream :

Oliphant admitted to over 100 GB. most every letter on here ive seen was well over 100 GB. none of that has anything to do with trying to scare this guy and his family from listening to a few shows that add up to not even 1 GB.
oliphant See Profile used over 100GB in the month "the letter" was first sent. The next month's usage was 60GB and service was terminated.

Who's scaring who?

If you don't want to worry about your usage, then get a provider who doesn't "letter" and terminate people without disclosing the terms. Otherwise, all you can do is guess and hope.


jansm38
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reply to JTRockville

Have any evidence to prove otherwise?

said by JTRockville:

"probably"


cracker 52

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reply to JTRockville

Care to point out examples of those who received abuse warnings for simply using audio streams?



dadkins
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reply to JTRockville

#3 Please point out anywhere on this site where I have ever stated that 600GB per month was ok.

Address this first friend.
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JTRockville
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I thought I did address it. I changed it to 300GB, or 200GB. Your preference. Which do you guess is the limit?



JTRockville
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reply to jansm38

said by jansm38:

Have any evidence to prove otherwise?

said by JTRockville:

"probably"
Of course not. That's my point. There is no hard-and-fast "proof" of what the mysterious ever-changing cap is. There's not even a good way for the average user with a couple of computers or a couple of devices to measure their consumption.

Guess and hope. That's all a Comcast customer can do. It just seems a little misleading when someone doesn't disclose their guess as a guess, and states with authority that they don't have that they know what the cap is.

Until Comcast posts the cap on their website, we'll all just be guessing. Is that so hard to admit?