Re: The problem is... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15890029 en Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:42:42 EDT Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:42:42 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892735 G_Poobah : The way to win, is to make the 'next big thing'.
How about a nice, tivo like appliance based on mythtv, where everyone joins a mesh network to subscribe to a TV show. You an use the ratings, etc, join and leave shows, download and upload all the tv shows in your town as part of a group mind. Download, watch and rate and entire season. Do the same thing for music, like a slimedevices mp3 player. Or share DVD's with your friends and neighbors, rating good/bad/ehh.

Go down to what people want. It all comes down to exposure to what's available. Ask yourself how many Tivo users will ever go back to watching TV without a TV? I'd save very very few.

The internet is about empowerment. It's about making you, the individual, more powerful, more informed, better educated about the issues, and most importantly, a customer, not a consumer. It's about sticking it to the man, about doing things the way YOU want to do things. It's about non-conformity, it's about exposure to the world. It's the anti-thesis to the small minded isolationists. It's a big world, and we're only a small part of it. And as long as Americans are content to eat whats fed to them by the megacorps, we will continue to fall farther and farther behind. We have seen the enemy, it's not communism, it's not muslim extremist, it's not even canadians.. It is us.
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Flabby? pastey-skinned? riddled with phlebitis? Then you've got a good Republican body! So compare your lives to mine, and then kill yourself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892735 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:01:36 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892033 RadioDoc : No servers. At all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892033 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:16:25 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891996 dvd536 :
said by nasadude See Profile :

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

...that most people don't care.

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I don't think it's a matter that most people don't care, it's a matter of using the service with what you have. I wouldn't run out and buy a laptop just to use this service, but I would sure jump on 3M/3M at $17/mo for my home use on my desktop.

I'm not sure why the reporter thought it would be "buck rogersville" with people lounging everywhere hooked to the 'net. Although the article doesn't address it, this wi-fi system is probably the only internet choice besides dial-up for that town.

With the monopoly environment in this country, wi-fi is simply a third way to bridge the last mile and to more easily serve rural areas.
its worth $17 just for that 3 megs of UPLOAD alone assuming the TOS isn't too restrictive.
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891996 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:11:15 EDT SLA http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891964 dvd536 : five 9's for $17/mo? kind of lets you see how badly you're getting ripped off by your provider on your SLA.
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891964 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:07:10 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891905 RadioDoc :
said by Tzale See Profile :

What do you guys want? This is the number one site on the internet devoted to broadband news. If you don't like hearing about municipal wireless broadband that's dirt cheap, or Lightspeed or FIOS or whatever, then don't read/post here, there are many different forums on this site that can cater to your needs, and there are thousands more across the internet for you to choose from.

-Tzale
Someone take away your rattle?

Geez, nobody's complaining about the story. What the hell are you talking about?
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891905 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:56:28 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891810 Tzale : What do you guys want? This is the number one site on the internet devoted to broadband news. If you don't like hearing about municipal wireless broadband that's dirt cheap, or Lightspeed or FIOS or whatever, then don't read/post here, there are many different forums on this site that can cater to your needs, and there are thousands more across the internet for you to choose from.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891810 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:40:45 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891283 RadioDoc : I think that if you surveyed people in Chaska the majority would be rather ho-hum about the whole thing. That doesn't mean I don't think it's not a good idea (it appears to be being financed entirely through user fee income, although that water bill tie-in is troublesome). Just that a minority of folks give a crap about high speed access. Most don't even know what "speed" they're getting.

They seem to be getting a lot of fixed installations, which is good. The roaming-with-your-laptop aspect is fluff. Their coverage map shows very spotty hotspot availability.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891283 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:04:43 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891210 nasadude :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

...that most people don't care.

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I don't think it's a matter that most people don't care, it's a matter of using the service with what you have. I wouldn't run out and buy a laptop just to use this service, but I would sure jump on 3M/3M at $17/mo for my home use on my desktop.

I'm not sure why the reporter thought it would be "buck rogersville" with people lounging everywhere hooked to the 'net. Although the article doesn't address it, this wi-fi system is probably the only internet choice besides dial-up for that town.

With the monopoly environment in this country, wi-fi is simply a third way to bridge the last mile and to more easily serve rural areas. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891210 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:54:54 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15890029 fireflier : Hmm. Seems like our utopian dreams of technological wonders are being stymied by excessive numbers of technically illiterate. Damn. . .
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I'd kill for a Nobel peace prize!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15890029 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:57:56 EDT Re: The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15890024 achuchma :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

...that most people don't care.
Agreed...While things like Chaska, Project Lightspeed, Fios, etc. are nice, they are not going to bring us into some "Buck Rogers" land.

Life will continue as normal, just with faster access...
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Bring back chicken and potato chips - Vote Perot!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15890024 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:57:27 EDT The problem is... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889994 RadioDoc : ...that most people don't care.

Good for Chaska, though. At least they walk the walk instead of just talking about it. Hopefully there will be somewhere for them to walk to eventually.

These projects will never bring about a "cultural revolution". Almost all such municipal straw-grasping ends up failing in its original mission. See: Downtown malls.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889994 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:51:55 EDT