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Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15905373 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:13:52 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:13:52 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15924134 dom424 : BOClean and Kaspersky automatic, the rest I want to do manually.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15924134 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:36:40 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15923941 HMS1 : Everything always manual.

On applications, I turn off the auto-updates immediately after installing, and decide when to update based on looking at the vendor's site once in a while and following tech news. And even then, it's a manual download so it's reproducible offline, never thru the application.

Regarding Windows, people say "manual" when they mean "point the browser at Windows Update and let it tell me what I need". My way of getting updates is look at the MS0n-0nn writeups each month, download from there, and maybe install after waiting for problem reports. (This has the added advantage of accumulating a complete set of installers on backed-up disks.) Having any of the MS update stuff turned on - update service, BITS, ActiveX, etc. - would be against my security (or other) policies.

On Linux, I trust it more, and run the SUSE update thing once a month or so.

All this is in stark contrast to what I recommend for others. Anyone who needs to ask for advice, needs AU.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15923941 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:08:20 EDT Re: updates http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15922216 EGeezer : Here's an example that supports why I have my critical customer accounts do notifications only and give some patches and cumulative updates a test drive or the shelf test;

»support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/918165

Also see
»www.crn.com/nl/crnupdate/showArt···85303182

As far as whose fault it is, that is not my problem. What would be my problem would be if/when my customers start having problems and a fix is either not identified or would require time-consuming mitigation. In the meantime it's a finger-pointing vendor-spinning exercise while users experience irritating or business critical loss of function.
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AVs get auto-updated. That's about the only thing I can think of right now that I get automatically. Everything else is manual or never.
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said by grandpinaple

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What's an update?

Rolling up the newspaper now.....

Blake]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15911608 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:48:55 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15909947 Owlbet :

said by dadkins

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Gotta love those images! ;)

I do, I do, I do. :)
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NAV 2006*, BOClean, SpyCop, Windows Defender, ZAP Anti-Spyware, and MS Updates. I'm like dadkins

in that I usually beat AU to the punch as far as Microsoft Updates. I want to know that the automation features of the products above work, thus my penchant for automatic updating. Also like dadkins

, I regularly image my drive, especially the Monday night prior to "Patch Tuesday". And yes, I do periodically check that I have the most current updates installed.

*Beginning with NAV 2006, NAV is updated daily via Live Update. I no longer update via the Intelligent Updater.

Manual Update Daily:
Kaspersky as it no longer runs resident. KAV gets manually updated several times a day or more.

Manual Update Daily Based on DSLR Updates Sticky:
Ad-Aware, Spybot S & D, SpywareBlaster

Manual Update Monthly:
Any program that is not security related. Too many to list.

I voted Automatic Update Daily. :)
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Currently, it checks for updates and up pops this balloon 'updates are ready for download - check here'. The thing is, this balloon won't go away until you check on it, at which point the updates start downloading. If it faded out, it wouldn't be so bad but it doesn't. I'd like to know when there are updates available, but I want to decide when & whether to download them.

It's my #@$%^& computer, dammit!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15908307 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:57:04 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15907682 grandpinaple : What's an update?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15907682 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:41:25 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15907415 Netbum :

said by norwegian

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Major, or minor program updates ( and this includes security software ) needs to be rebooted most times, so you don't want it interfering with other projects.

Too late,for me :mad:
I could have sworn,I had manual Install/Reboot enabled...nope.
Got disconnected during the night,in the middle of a "project". :D
Its manual prompt for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15907415 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:18:04 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15907040 cork1958 : I don't leave ANYTHING on auto update, beside the fact of that crap running in the background. I hate any and all programs that even have that feature. Very first thing I do with ANY program is disable auto update.

I know it's a good feature for people less technically inclined, but it still sucks to me.
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said by Barbara Ann

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Manually! never automatic!

Ditto
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At home, I have it automatically check and alert me, but I manually download and install. At least, for MS updates. SAV I like to automatically download and update ASAP. And things like WoW and Steam they can do things automatically. If a game stops working, thats not quite as upsetting as Microsoft trashing my computer or some misc bit of software because of a patch they pushed upon my machine.
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said by Link Logger

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Now that said in Link Logger for example the updates are purely manual as I didn't want people accusing Link Logger of 'phoning home'. So think of it as a case where I might like red, but if my user community likes blue, then its blue as I write software for them and not me.

Blake

...but if there was an option for auto or manual updates in Link Logger, your user community could have their cake and eat it too. :)

The fact that I always got MS updates before I was auto-updated is the very reason I turned off MS automatic updating. :uhh:
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Now that said in Link Logger for example the updates are purely manual as I didn't want people accusing Link Logger of 'phoning home'. So think of it as a case where I might like red, but if my user community likes blue, then its blue as I write software for them and not me.

Blake
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Fully Automatic Daily, for my anti-virus (KIS6) and anti-spyware or adware

Partially Automatic Daily, for my OS. But only because I do have broadband.

Manually, for just about everything else.
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said by SnowyOne

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So do you "Practice what you preach"
I don't.

I don't either. But I've got the knowledge to keep my box clean with or without the updates and am aware of the threats that exist at the time the updates are released. The users I set up or preach to for auto update are those that don't practice the safest of hex and are not good about checking for updates on their own.
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said by WFO

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If Blake is really asking if I'd want auto updates for LinkLogger, ... :)

Not to come off as harsh, but if that were Link Logger

's question he would have just come & asked it. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15906379 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:01:11 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15906351 WFO : KAV, BoClean and Counterspy are fully auto.

Everything else is manual. I'm better at finding them than they are at notifying me. :D

AnyDVD updates so frequently that I sometimes forget to disable the auto update. No biggie as it is trusted at this point.

If Blake is really asking if I'd want auto updates for LinkLogger, I'd say yes simply because updates are rare and I forget to check often enough. :)
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First, Let's just say it & get it over with.
"Were discussing Microsoft updates."
I've struggled with this question for awhile,
"Do as I say, not as I do" is my dilemma.
I voted "Manually" because that's what I do.
My conflict is with machines that I reformat/clean etc... that I may or may not ever see again. If it's a machine that in all probability I may never see again it's everything updated automagically. A machine closer to home (relative/friend) everything but Microsoft updates are automagically updated. If these 'closer' machines are a month behind in microsoft updates I don't consider them to be at any greater risk than a buggy update can pose.
So do you "Practice what you preach"
I don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15906333 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:49:04 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15906286 Blackbird : When it comes to OS updates (and even major non-OS program updates), for some of us, there are still too many "issues" to let them run full-auto simply because the OS, tool, or app decides it wants to suckle at an update site's teat. There are times when one may be on a WiFi link and doesn't want to use that method, as starfish8 notes. There are times when an update can be so large or complex that it (or the resulting reboots connected with it) could interfere with something else important that the computer may be doing... but auto-updates usually don't know about or account for that. There are times (too many, actually - see the current verclsid flap!) when updates can break certain systems' functionality... and one may be forgiven for not wanting that to happen in the midst of other important computer activity or until one has had a chance to check the forums for discussions about some particular update. There are times when one might wish to make a TI/Ghost image prior to a perceived higher-risk update, but auto-updating can deny that opportunity. There are times when folks simply don't want computer software "phoning home".

Bottom line: many computer owners want to retain direct control over what happens and when on a computer, case by case... after all, it's their computer - not the software houses whose products they may be using. I have no problem with software offering an easily-accessible option for auto, partial-auto, or manual updating. But increasingly, one gets the sense that some software houses are now diluting the clear understanding and implementation of those updating choices.
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For complex setups or critical usage, a daily notify works. I then review the proposed updates and either apply them, test them on a lab rat with the user apps loaded, or give them the shelf test to see if there are reported problems.

Bleeding edge ain't my bag where business is involved. My customers like reliability, availability and performance. That's ultimately what they pay me to provide.
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Boinc also, for team Starfire, with it's back and forth traffic is fully automatic.
Everything else is always set to manual.

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... I voted 'manual', but what I really want is 'Fully-Functional-and-BUG-Free' ...

... actually I only use Auto-Update for my real-time A/V (and I check that manually once a day as well), all others are manually done, and it's not much work, really ...

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said by Libra

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I voted manually. I have my AV and AT update automatically, but for anything else I like to find out about the update and see how others did with it before I install it. ...

Ditto ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905927 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:30:07 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905896 Libra : I voted manually. I have my AV and AT update automatically, but for anything else I like to find out about the update and see how others did with it before I install it.

Sincerely, Libra]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905896 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:22:50 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905798 SpannerITWks : I know that some AV's have been detecting a lot more than just Viruses for a while, but they are still referred to by the Vendors themselves in the main as AV.

The same goes for AS/ etc etc. So even though for eg, a very good AT will detect/block etc a lot more than just Trojans, if EVERY Anti was just generically called Antimalware, then it might be pretty confusing for a lot of people out there. And all Antimalware products would NOT be equal, as individual Anti this n that are NOT now, or have ever been.

Spanner
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OS and major software updates are on "manual", or "notify me, but don't automatically download or install them", and this reasoning has nothing to do with paranoia of my computer breaking from them.

Simply, it is safer to download and install them when all else has finished. Whether it be in the middle of trying software, doing some printing, or playing a game, whatever it may be.

Major, or minor program updates ( and this includes security software ) needs to be rebooted most times, so you don't want it interfering with other projects.

I have yet to see a detection update break anything, other than produce false positives, which can be dealt with quite easily, and you won't be scanning in the middle of some project either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905769 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:00:27 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905734 Mele20 :

said by Nancymca

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Hello,

I wasn't talking about an AV. I was talking about antimalware software. I only use an AV on-demand.

I handle software *upgrades* manually, but I don't think that's what the poll is about, as they are typically infrequent, with the exception possibly being Firefox/Thunderbird. (for Firefox/Thunderbird users of course)

If you read the thread that this grew from you would understand that Link Logger started it partly because of concern regarding the forced updating of WMP since ver 7.
»Microsoft DNS resolver sabotaged hosts-file lookup?

I did say security applications LIKE AV. I wanted to say antitrojans, antivirus and antispyware applications but I knew it is considered old-fashioned and inaccurate to refer to AT now and I was having a "senior moment" and couldn't think of the word "antimalware". :(
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KAV is Fully Automatic. everything else is Manual.
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But I usually recommend Check Automatic or Partially Automatic approach for less experienced home users. I think that danger of being late with a new patch overweights chances of someone unwillingly swallowing a screwy update.

If you tend to forget little matters or have better things to do than following daily/weekly/monthly what to update - automate things.
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Of course if the program allows how often to poll for updates I will select what I deem appropriate for the specific program. Something like Sun Java doesn't need to poll for updates every day or even every week! Once a month for Sun Java is sufficient I think.

Windows XP SP2 has Auto Download and Auto Install at my specified time.
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Spanner]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905527 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:16:36 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905500 Nancymca : Hello,

I wasn't talking about an AV. I was talking about antimalware software. I only use an AV on-demand.

I handle software *upgrades* manually, but I don't think that's what the poll is about, as they are typically infrequent, with the exception possibly being Firefox/Thunderbird. (for Firefox/Thunderbird users of course)
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2. AV/AT automatically download/install.
3. Everything else, same as #1.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905428 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:02:18 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905404 Mele20 : Nancy, I believe Link Logger was excluding security applications like AV from this poll/discussion. They fall into a special category and I think even those of us who want full control over any other application/OS updating/upgrading probably have our AV, etc. set to update automatically. I was speaking about all other applications in my remarks.
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"If you want to do DRM on a PC then you need to treat the user as the enemy." Ross Anderson in "`Trusted Computing' Frequently Asked Questions"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905404 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:56:49 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905373 jbob : For me I update my running AV(SAV) and AT(BOC) apps automatically daily. For my OS I do that manually as required. For other anti-malware apps I do them manually as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905373 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:50:48 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905372 Mele20 : So far this poll is tied with two polar opposites being favored. :D

I voted for manual updating. I don't want ANY of the process automated. I've been doing just fine with manual updating for years. I see no reason to change that. I have autoupdating and BITS disabled. I do use services such as Belarc Advisor and Windiz for Fx to confirm that I have gotten the updates I need. I download to disk and install one at a time and use the computer inbetween each install. That way when there is a problem I usually know immediately which update is the culprit. I burn copies to CD so I don't want some auto updating thing where I have no copy of the update.

As for application updating, I also want that to be manual. In the long run that is always wiser and, of course, less invasive of privacy. Many times I don't want a later version of a product and I don't think that choice should be removed. WMP, Acrobat Reader, Flash Player all come to mind here.
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"If you want to do DRM on a PC then you need to treat the user as the enemy." Ross Anderson in "`Trusted Computing' Frequently Asked Questions"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905372 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:50:39 EDT Re: How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905354 Nancymca : Fully Automatic daily for trusted software, of course. Why even think about it, that's why I have the software in the first place. I have better things to do than muck around with my system picking out malware.

One exception: OS updates. There is too much of a history of bad and troublesome updates to let those install automatically. I'd rather see how they go before I install them. "...Asps...very dangerous....you go first" :D
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www.boclean.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905354 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:47:54 EDT How do you like your updates served - with this poll I hope http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15905184 Link Logger : Not to take away from the other thread, but perhaps a discussion about update methods is in order here.

[poll]How you like your updates delivered?,Fully Automatic Daily,Fully Automatic Weekly,Partially Automatic Daily,Partially Automatic Weekly,Check Automatic Daily,Check Automatic Weekly,Manually,Whats an update (people selecting this option will be responded to with a rolled up newspaper)[/poll]?

Fully Automatic = check, download and install
Partially Automatic = check, download but wait for user to install
Check Automatic = check, but wait for user to download and install
Manually = user will check, download and install

Now of course a factor would be the kind of update we are talking about. Certainly I would think that most people would like AV updates delivered hourly (do you trust AV vendors more then OS or application vendors?), but we will exclude them and talk more about OS/application updates in this thread.

Sorry guys I think the poll in the other thread is trash.

Blake
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