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| Make Our Own Laws Long , Long Time Ago, We The People Made The Laws,And Voted on it, Its time to IMPEACH The House, And Senate,And don't Forget The White House, Start over And Create The Laws WE The People Agree On.....And In the New Law, WE Throw The Dictators in Jail.... | |
nonner9
join:2005-10-14
Charlotte, NC | What country is that? India has a democracy where people vote on the laws, or so I was told.
I know in the USA, we are a Republic. By definition, the people do NOT make the laws. The USA happens to have a representative republic where the people elect others to represent them. And the representatives are responsible for governing the country. In fact, in the USA, there are 3 branches of gov't. The Legislative branch (house of representatives + senate) has the power to create new laws and repeal existing laws.
If the people, in the USA, don't like the laws, they need to start electing senators/congressmen who will not be corrupted. In my opinion, most politicians start off with good intentions, but then they slowly get more power hungry and start playing the game of politics. If the people, in the USA, don't like it, then they need to make a statement at the voting booth. | | |
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 JigsawStardust We ArePremium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH | reply to cableman0327
said by cableman0327:Long , Long Time Ago, We The People Made The Laws,And Voted on it, Its time to IMPEACH The House, And Senate,And don't Forget The White House, Start over And Create The Laws WE The People Agree On.....And In the New Law, WE Throw The Dictators in Jail.... Good Idea BUT You will just have the same problem over time.Men,Money and Power just don't mix.
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Unfortunately, most of "The People" you speak of are complete fucking morons. | |
| reply to nonner9
When both parties are corrupted, and its only people from thosw two parties that are ever elected, how do you decide at the voting booth? | |
| I heard this President say in his campaign's speeches,
That he would be more business friendly than his opponent.
He has kept his promise. | |
 pb5kCan't TriforcePremium
join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ | reply to nonner9
I agree with you up to a point. But re-electing new people into these positions will be meaningless if the framework that enabled their corruption still exists. It'd be like simply rebooting a PC that's filled with spyware, since the underlying problems still remain. | |
nonner9
join:2005-10-14
Charlotte, NC | And I agree with you as well, which is why I'm starting to lean towards agreeing with limited terms for the Legislative branch of gov't.
If these congressmen have to compromise/make exceptions/make deals on their beliefs, then they are playing a game in washington, not staying true to the principles which people elected them on.
I definately don't know all the pros/cons to the term limits argument, but I think one of the pros is easy/logically understood by most who think about it for a second. | |
JigsawStardust We ArePremium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH | reply to pb5k
A good start thou would be to eliminate Lobbying For good or ill IMHO.
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said by Necronomikro:When both parties are corrupted, and its only people from thosw two parties that are ever elected, how do you decide at the voting booth? Simply by studying our past to foresee our future,and see if the quotes, our Founding Fathers left for to use as an "yardstick measurement" to see where we stand today.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
“The true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best, that the states are independent as to everything within themselves, and united as to everything respecting foreign affairs.” - Thomas Jefferson
"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves, and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion." - Thomas Jefferson
"It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error." - U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds, 339 U.S. 382,442
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jefferson
"Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
"Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of it's waters....power concedes nothing without a demand...it never did, it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows or both...The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." - Frederick Douglass
"In defense of our persons and properties under actual violation, we took up arms. When that violence shall be removed, when hostilities shall cease on the part of the aggressors, hostilities shall cease on our part also." Thomas Jefferson: Declaration on Taking Up Arms, 1775
"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst; and to provide for it." Patrick Henry
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"We, the People, are the rightful masters of both the Congress and the Courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who have perverted it." - Abraham Lincoln
"If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last." - Ronald Reagan, 1964
"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln
"The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts ... the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be ... The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe." - Thomas Jefferson
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." - Samuel Clemens, writing under the pen name "Mark Twain"
"The right to freedom being the gift of God, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave." - Samuel Adams
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - Abraham Lincoln
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention, have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." - President James Madison
"We must never cease to proclaim in fearless tones the great principles of freedom and the rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the English-speaking world and which through Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, the Habeas Corpus, trial by jury, and the English common law find their most famous expression in the American Declaration of Independence." - Sir Winston Churchill, "The Sinews of Peace," address at Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri, March 5, 1946.
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said by pb5k:I agree with you up to a point. But re-electing new people into these positions will be meaningless if the framework that enabled their corruption still exists. It'd be like simply rebooting a PC that's filled with spyware, since the underlying problems still remain. I agree with you also.The members of the current administration and members of both the GOP and Democrats are
proving themselves to be the worst case of rectal cancer this Country ever had.
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said by stickstickly :
Unfortunately, most of "The People" you speak of are complete fucking morons.
If true, your comment places you among them. I, however, disagree with your presumption, and further, believe even the dullest dullard eventually perceives the existence and preservation of his/her own self-interest rests in protection of and in the common good. | |
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