Re: VZ made the correct move! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15962826 en Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:01:43 EDT Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:01:43 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16573955 Sammer : Actually FiOS (BPON) can't currently come close to 100Mbs either if it's shared with 32 houses. GPON won't really be available to the huge telcos until next year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16573955 Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:15:18 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979052 fiberguy : What? Do you NOT read this very site? Do your homework... there was a topic posted here that stated this very fact.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979052 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:50:38 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15971707 ITALIAN926 : What in the hell would you consider a large deployment? Do you know how many BILLIONS theyve already invested and plan on investing? Its a big country out there and it takes time to run a trillion miles of fiber optic cabling . People expect Verizon to flip a switch and half the country should be wired. Amazing. Obviously in oder to impress you, Verizon should hire a million additional people and spend 500billion dollars on it next quarter. haha

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In fact, I beleive they are slowing them down.
Where do you get this shit, really. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15971707 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:44:13 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15970340 moonpuppy :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

Um.. doubt that. Unless you took it wrong, I could pretty much care less about investors for the most part.
But Brian Roberts loves investors enough to say he isn't worried about FIOS. Behind the curtain, Comcast is VERY worried. ;)

said by fiberguy See Profile :

Further, you should quote what you are talking about.. otherwise, it's just a party in your head and the rest of us are not invited. ;)

(Insinuations don't rank high as they are right up there with assumptions and unlike many, I do NOT care if it's phone or cable.. a rat is still a rat. If you want to get into trends, you should look deeper into mine)
Ahh, but you do care since it is your job and you do spend countless posts defending cable and bashing the telcos. Cable does well, you keep your job. Competition means higher costs for both parties involved.

A rat is still a rat huh? Just like Comcast only doing 16Mbit upgrades for those in FIOS areas only so far. ;) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15970340 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:22:51 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968735 fiberguy : Um.. doubt that. Unless you took it wrong, I could pretty much care less about investors for the most part.

Further, you should quote what you are talking about.. otherwise, it's just a party in your head and the rest of us are not invited. ;)

(Insinuations don't rank high as they are right up there with assumptions and unlike many, I do NOT care if it's phone or cable.. a rat is still a rat. If you want to get into trends, you should look deeper into mine)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968735 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:44:03 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968234 moonpuppy : In a previous post of yours, you insinuated that whatever sounds good to the investors is o.k.

Verizon is playing the same game Comcast, ATT or TW does. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968234 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:24:44 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968180 fiberguy : Umm....

I can't speak for Verizon and their roll out plans. I haven't seen any large scale and long term plans. In fact, I beleive they are slowing them down. HOWEVER, it makes their over all roll outs look better, to the overall public, much larger when you roll out (say) 20 small roll outs in several cities and states vs one large deployment in a single city. So, it "appears" that they deployment of Fios by Verizon is HUGE!

C'mon... "Verizon wires 20 cities", though just a small portion, sounds so much better than "Verizon launches Fios in Baltimore MD" (for example...)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15968180 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:16:09 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15965696 footballdude :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

However, where in this article does it say AT&T is having second thoughts? All I see are some questionable stock speculation by a third-tier pundit.
That's exactly what I thought. Since when does a guess from an industry analyst have any effect?
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

You also have to remember, while VZ put out Fiber, it's NOT a LARGE deploymnet as it's made out to be.

Rolling it out in many cities? Yes... large scale? Hardly. But you are right about choosing fiber over this project slow speed or Prompt-NO that SBC wanted to do for almost a decade now.
HUH?!?!!?

My guess is Verizon is building new deployments (because it is easier to start from scratch) and replacing infrastructures that are no longer viable to maintain cheaply. Since they are going to be replaced eventually, why not do the oldest or those in the worst shape first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15965558 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:57:32 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15964299 attsbcisgay : This is getting silly. I'll be happy with 8/1 if they can deliver that to most of the dsl users! but they cant
they're whining... bitching about a technology that's not even practical or make economic sense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15964299 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:20:50 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962826 ross96 : Since when does the "v" in vdsl stand for video?? great article....not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962826 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:48:36 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962408 fiberguy : You also have to remember, while VZ put out Fiber, it's NOT a LARGE deploymnet as it's made out to be.

Rolling it out in many cities? Yes... large scale? Hardly. But you are right about choosing fiber over this project slow speed or Prompt-NO that SBC wanted to do for almost a decade now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962408 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:46:28 EDT Re: VZ made the correct move! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15962040 RadioDoc : Lightspeed pushes the fiber into the 'hood where copper takes over, but it's not a start-over proposition to replace that bit of copper with fiber later.

AT&T should have just bit the bullet and done FTTH/P from the get-go, but Ed's not as much of a deep thinker as Ivan I guess... ;)

Personally, I think that Ed's plan was to boil the Wall Street frogs by slowly turning up the heat on their pot instead of throwing them into scalding water like Ivan did. A press release stating that they are pushing the FTTP installs into established neighborhoods would kick it up a notch.

However, where in this article does it say AT&T is having second thoughts? All I see are some questionable stock speculation by a third-tier pundit.
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