Re: Bandwitdth issues? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15979763 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:32:48 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:32:48 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979763 fiberguy : Really? I guess Sacramento wasn't building theirs in 1992/1993 then.. MAN that must have been some good drugs we were all on... ;)

You've, once again, failed to prove anything other than come here to start a flame war with me as you have for the last 6 months. Bravo!

But, let me educate you on some facts:

Again, Sacramento was building it's hybrid fiber coax system in 1992, 1993.. are they not an incumbant?

Since there are already cable systems using IPTV techology with OnDemand, I guess you are correct.. some people are all talk.. that would be the phone companies. The IP address on my box of 10.130.24.152 isn't an IP? IPTV is IPTV...

Time Warner cable is already working on holding channels out on the edge of the nodes.. there are other MSOs testing standard IPTV services in the labs..

So far, if this is a competition for you, cable TV is actually moving forward MUCH fsater than Telco. Who is the big talked of IPTV and nothing coming of it? That would be AT&T/SBC... seen anything in the last 8 years from them?

I think that you will see once you remove the need to simply flame me in the forums that cable has had many more advances and deployed much more in it's world than telephone has.

If you want to have a conversation, at least be honest about it.

And for the record, a large portion of cable operators turned off their microwave hub trasmitters in lue of the fiber connections back in the early 90s, so that puts it all about 15 years ago... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979763 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:30:15 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892080 dvd536 :
said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Currently, all channels are being broadcasted simultaneously while the operators are still offering 5, 10, and even +15Mbps Internet connectivity. They are suggesting that the average number of 'watched' channels at any given time is actually lower than the total number of channels.

As a result and the new ability to selectively not simultaneously broadcast all channels to the home they can find more useful ways of using recycled bandwidth. While faster internet connectivity is one of them, this could also allow for more higher-bandwidth channels (e.g. HD).

For instance, let's say that a cable operator routines broadcasts 200 channels simultaneously, but at any given time in their network only 150 are being watched. Since Internet connectivity is 'best effort' then the variable performance is already allowed and afforded.

Personally, they all need a better approach (deploy GigE FTTH!).
While there are "Access to over 300 channels" there are only like 30 that get wide viewership not including premium channels.
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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Hmmmmm, how is this going to work? Are all programs are going to be On-Demand? Imagine the bandwidth when people get home or in the evening when everyone starts calling for shows.

Plus, who knows if those 20 or 30 shows are what people want to watch at any given time.

Is channel surfing going to be possible?

As for the major networks (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS) will they allow their shows to be stored then transmitted?

Nice idea but there are issues.
You think a 1 or 2 second pause is bad when changing channels imagine how annoying it'll be waiting for a newly tuned channel to buffer.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Ameritech did advanced fiber-fed HFC cable TV fifteen years ago, well before any entrenched incumbent even had their first meeting about it..
Where was that network built? The only HFC system that I know Ameritech built is the one that WOW! currently owns, and it isn't even close to being 15 years old. It's about 8 at most, and even back then it was only analog. The first thing WOW had to do was order and install all the digital equipment to make it competitive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15892022 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:14:57 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891247 hottboiinnc : well they already charge for VoD for Showtime its part of the monthly fee you pay for the actual channel.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891247 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:59:09 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891091 moonpuppy :
said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

CBS already allows one of its networks to be stored and watched VoD- they own Showtime which is an On-Demand channel.
With all the arguments over the broadcast flag, I wonder how long before they start charging for shows On Demand.

As for "guessing" which channels will be most popular and which will be wanted, that can quickly backfire with the fickle tastes of the American Public who channel surf with more skill than the best wave riders in Hawaii. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15891091 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:37:06 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889780 RadioDoc : Ameritech did advanced fiber-fed HFC cable TV fifteen years ago, well before any entrenched incumbent even had their first meeting about it...so I guess that means every other cable MSO in the region has been playing catch-up since.

What's your point?

Talking about it and deploying it are totally different things. Seems that all talk, no action shoe is now on the cable foot.
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said by UofMiamiGrad See Profile :

CV is already testing this in NJ. I am sure other MSOs are testing it as well. So much for all the MSOs saying they have no bandwidth issues, when in fact they do.
Yea.. this is nothing new. I don't know where it comes from that cable is looking at this from Phone. Unless phone was looking at doing this back in 1997 (which they could have been) cable tv has been looking at and eyeing IPTV for years. This is nothing new.

In many of our company wide meetings, Comcast officials had been talking about IPTV in the past. "The Industry" may be talking about it *now*, but I know of MSOs that have been talking about it for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889696 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:05:26 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889108 GhostDoggy : Currently, all channels are being broadcasted simultaneously while the operators are still offering 5, 10, and even +15Mbps Internet connectivity. They are suggesting that the average number of 'watched' channels at any given time is actually lower than the total number of channels.

As a result and the new ability to selectively not simultaneously broadcast all channels to the home they can find more useful ways of using recycled bandwidth. While faster internet connectivity is one of them, this could also allow for more higher-bandwidth channels (e.g. HD).

For instance, let's say that a cable operator routines broadcasts 200 channels simultaneously, but at any given time in their network only 150 are being watched. Since Internet connectivity is 'best effort' then the variable performance is already allowed and afforded.

Personally, they all need a better approach (deploy GigE FTTH!).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889108 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:39:56 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889072 hottboiinnc : CBS already allows one of its networks to be stored and watched VoD- they own Showtime which is an On-Demand channel.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889072 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:35:27 EDT Re: Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889065 UofMiamiGrad : CV is already testing this in NJ. I am sure other MSOs are testing it as well. So much for all the MSOs saying they have no bandwidth issues, when in fact they do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889065 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:35:09 EDT Bandwitdth issues? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889034 moonpuppy : Hmmmmm, how is this going to work? Are all programs are going to be On-Demand? Imagine the bandwidth when people get home or in the evening when everyone starts calling for shows.

Plus, who knows if those 20 or 30 shows are what people want to watch at any given time.

Is channel surfing going to be possible?

As for the major networks (FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS) will they allow their shows to be stored then transmitted?

Nice idea but there are issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15889034 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:49 EDT