 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Music is overrated! Plus, with all the bullshit DRM, Copy Protection & proprietary formats(and RIAA Big Brother tactics), I fail to see the lure of these devices any more.
Show me a device that will play anything - anywhere... without all the baggage and we can talk!
I'll stick with my laptop for now. 
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 cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | said by dadkins:Plus, with all the bullshit DRM, Copy Protection & proprietary formats(and RIAA Big Brother tactics), I fail to see the lure of these devices any more. Show me a device that will play anything - anywhere... without all the baggage and we can talk! I'm not saying it's for the better, but DRM is the direction this industry is going. I think it would be very doubtful any company would come out and market a device that can play anything...as it would probably be sued into oblivion within the week.  |
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I agree w/ dadkins. A friend of mine recently flew to California and she claimed "you would have thought they were handing out free ipods at the airport."
I found this quite humorous. Ipod is a nice product but they are not for everyone. Id rather have my hearing unobstructed and pay attention to what is going on around me. Call me old fashioned but I like to read when on a flight, bus, train, etc. Sometimes I even write. |
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said by dadkins:Plus, with all the bullshit DRM, Copy Protection & proprietary formats(and RIAA Big Brother tactics), I fail to see the lure of these devices any more. Show me a device that will play anything - anywhere... without all the baggage and we can talk! I'll stick with my laptop for now. Are you saying you can't play non DRM-ed mp3's on an iPod? Or mp4 video? |
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music is not overated, and carrying your laptop around for playing music or whatever conjures up the image of you using a 1984 motorola cell phone to tell your mommy when you will be home for dinner.
the ipod is a phenomena, there are many reasons why it is market leader. only when a product comes along that fends off greedy music companies, is none propriety to o.s or platform ,can be easily customized, ie able to update to a more powerful battery, replace a hard drive, install an open operating program, change the screen ect. then and only then you may have something that may come close to taking apples market share of the portable music player.
a generic pmp for ogg, aac, mp3, mp4, rm,wmv, mv4...... |
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to Pictor Guy
No, I'm saying that if I buy music/video from iTunes/whomever, it is laden with crap! PASS!
I would like to see a player *AND* service that will sell plain vanilla music that can be transferred to where ever and whenever I choose.
Burned as many times as I see fit!
Played on whatever device I wish, when I choose to.
As long as xxAAs have their dirty paws in the media I may want, I don't want it!
I shall rip and download to this laptop, anything I see fit!
Music today no longer interests me anyways. It's all crap!
Video on an iPod or some other scrawny screen is a joke!
Having to have licenses to listen to or watch media is not for me!
Now, when this new toy's specs are released and a few reviews are conducted, I may have a look.
Plus, it isn't an Apple!
I may just get a PSP, screw it!
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to elbundi
Can your iPod play HD video?
Can your iPod rip video and/or music?
Can your iPod post here on DSLR from anywhere?
If you feel the need to listen to today's music, I'm sorry!
I have hours of recorded TV shows, ripped DVDs, and a shitload of other goodies on my laptop. Yes, music too!
What does your iPod have on it? Uh huh.
iPods are a fad. Just as the Walkman was, then the Discman.
All I do is laptops, because I like variety(and quality).
Maybe some day, you and I will be on the same plane and you will be listening to music, I will be enjoying whatever I want! In whatever format you can imagine.
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said by Pictor Guy:Are you saying you can't play non DRM-ed MP3s on an iPod? Or MP4 video? My point exactly.
IMO, I don't think iPod would be nearly as successful as it is if it didn't support the good old MP3 format. I know I wouldn't buy one if all it played were those Apple proprietary files. I believe SONY has tried going that route once, they released a player that only played music in their proprietary ATRAC format; needless to say, they didn't sell much of these and quickly recalled that player, replacing it with the one with MP3 support.
Also, remember how Steve Ballmer once accused iPod users of being thieves (he was referring to iPod's MP3 support)? Yet, all players based on Microsoft technologies support MP3 as well, AND they are playing catch-up with Apple.
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ecoPremium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | reply to dadkins
Emusic, which is the second biggest music store behind iTunes, puts out all their music downloads in unprotected mp3 format. It'll therefore work with pretty much anything from DVD players to iPods to car stereos. |
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Kihei, HI
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said by dadkins:... iPods are a fad. Just as the Walkman was, then the Discman. All I do is laptops, because I like variety(and quality). ... The technology might be faddish but the underlying idea has not changed for decades: people want a good way to take their music/media with them.
Your laptop solution works for you but it would not work for most. Heh... I can imagine the Hulk with a laptop velcroed around one bicep, headphones on, pumping megatons of iron at the gym but, for the rest of us, we want something just a bit smaller.
I coulnd't justify spending the money on an iPod and, since I don't care about portable video, I got a very cheap 512MB Sansa player... it was less than $40. For music, I generally convert from my CD collection. I get 12 hours of playtime per AAA NiMH cell.
Faddish? Maybe... but it's more like an upgrade from the days of burning custom CDs (or even making cassettes!) to play in my car.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Well, see? YOU were smart enough to get a non-iPod player.
I don't have to worry about the whole gym thing, and if I'm there with a friend, I'll be sitting in a chair watching TV/DVD or something. Not on some puny ass screen either!
I would rather get a MP3 player - thumb drive if I were to get any portable music device(and they cost a hellva lot less than an iPud).
The MS device looks better than the iPod as well... from what those crappy images show. Time will tell.
Never know, it may have wireless and a touch screen... access home computer and get more media. That alone would make it better than the $399 Apple thingy.
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You mean to tell me you haven't figured out yet that an iPod can play any non-DRM MP3 file, including those you can quickly and easily rip from any music CD? |
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The RIAA won't let you buy non-DRM digital music. But nothing keeps you from loading up your iPod with non-DRM MP3 files you can get off P2P, friends, and by easily ripping any music CD you buy or own.
So what you're really saying is that you have no interest in a portable music player UNLESS you can load it up with music you purchase digitally over the internet without DRM. That's just DUMB.
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Nope. Cram everything you mentioned into yet another copycat, low quality, ineptly designed, generic device with yet another poorly thought out, non-intuitive control interface and it will still fail laughably against the iPod.
Imagine the crappy Dell mp3 player but with user-changeable battery, hard drive, and OS, and open to accepting any flavor of digital music with and without DRM, and you'll still have a loser on your hands. Mark my words. |
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EXACTLY!
People were literally BEGGING Sony to release a quality MP3 player and instead they pushed their instantly obsolete MD players (at first without even recording ability) and then these ludicrous music players that would only load music via their atrocious software and with DRM and low quality sampling added to the mix!
The day Apple changes their iPods to only support DRM music is the day the iPod market vanishes instantly in a puff of stupidity and arrogance.
With regards to Balmer, yeah he's a scum-bag. The lowest form of life, kind of like a Karl Rove, but without sufficient intelligence to make his lies produce the desired results. |
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What idiocy. Yesterday I got up and drove to the beach, where I listened to music while lying on the sand plugged into my laptop.
On Monday I'm going to take the day off to run a few errands. First I'll wake up early and go for a jog with my laptop. Then I'll entertain myself while sitting at the doctor's office by playing with my laptop while waiting for my appointment to come up. Next week I'm going to spend a few days with some friends up in New York. I look forward to long subway rides typing away on my notebook, and then strolling the streets, stopping in shops and stores along the way with my laptop comfortably tucked into my back pocket... |
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 KompressorPremium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to freediverx
Re: Music is overrated! »www.allofmp3.com |
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DesdinovaPremium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | Also emusic.com and mp3search.ru .
And in terms of quality, Neuros Audio makes a number of products that I feel smoke anything Ipod. |
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 JigsawStardust We ArePremium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH | reply to eco
said by eco:Emusic, which is the second biggest music store behind iTunes, I think »www.allofmp3.com is second with 14%
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KompressorPremium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Desdinova
»www.mp3stor.com as well.
And if I was going to buy an PM3/video player, it wouldn't be an Apple. If Microsoft comes out with one, I may get it, if the price is right. |
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