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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/692343"><b>rbrugman</b></A> : The routers just use a custom version of OpenWRT or DD-WRT with the correct FON Chilispot settings. They can tell if it's online or not by if your router is actively connected to FON's Radius server.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:27:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Abuse</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1069980"><b>LilYoda</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  insomx <A HREF="/useremail/u/760510"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>I'm not worried about my TOS, it isn't like they are going to find out.</DIV>If, as another poster suggested the FON router does indeed 'phone home' to confirm it's been setup within 30 days, then I can bet ISPs can put an Access-List on their routers to either:<br> - block it<br> - log it, and send you a nice letter saying "you're in breach of your TOS, you are now being upgraded to our business package"...<br><SMALL>--<br>"the two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity." (Harlan Ellison)</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:02:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/760510"><b>insomx</b></A> : Ya.  <br><br>I'm not worried about my TOS, it isn't like they are going to find out.<br><br>I am wondering about the abuse too.  What about if the router malfunctions?  Am I doing to get charged 45 bucks?<br><SMALL>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://monctonhigh.ca" >monctonhigh.ca</A> <BR><br>"What is wrong with all the people that say what is wrong with people?"</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:40:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256679</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><b>achuchma</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  insomx <A HREF="/useremail/u/760510"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>How long do you have to keep this going for?  What about if next month I can't pay my internet and have to cancel?  What will FON do?</DIV>I didn't get that far into the FAQ.<br><br>I am interested in it, but three things that are stopping me:<br><br>1) The abuse issue...<br><br>2) The fact that I really live in the middle of no where. I would probably get more hits from a lemonade stand.<br><br>3) I <I>really</I> think it would be in bad taste to resell my Verizon DSL. Not only because it is against the TOS, but I'm also an employee. I don't think my employer would look too kindly upon that.   :huh:<br><SMALL>--<br>Bring back chicken and potato chips - Vote Perot!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:35:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/760510"><b>insomx</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  achuchma <A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  TKJunkMail <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>And how do they check out compliance?? Send someone to every shipped router location to see if it is open and available?</DIV>From what I gather on their site, it seems like the router "phones home" to FON.<br> </DIV>How long do you have to keep this going for?  What about if next month I can't pay my internet and have to cancel?  What will FON do?<br><SMALL>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://monctonhigh.ca" >monctonhigh.ca</A> <BR><br>"What is wrong with all the people that say what is wrong with people?"</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:32:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/760510"><b>insomx</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  achuchma <A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  TKJunkMail <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>And how do they check out compliance?? Send someone to every shipped router location to see if it is open and available?</DIV>From what I gather on their site, it seems like the router "phones home" to FON.<br> </DIV>Figure out how it does it and put that on your PC, the flash the router.  <br><SMALL>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://monctonhigh.ca" >monctonhigh.ca</A> <BR><br>"What is wrong with all the people that say what is wrong with people?"</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:23:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256397</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/906493"><b>knightmb</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  achuchma <A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  andrewhaji <A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>What's stopping people from flashing their routers with DD-WRT and just using it as their own personal router?  There's no guarantee that users will participate in the Fon network. </DIV>There is a $45 charge if the router is not on the network in 30 days.<br> </DIV>That's why you pay through paypal, at least that can't charge you again.  Funny thing, it takes 3 to 6 weeks to ship the router so how do they hold up the 30 days thing I wonder?  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:54:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256329</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><b>achuchma</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  TKJunkMail <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>And how do they check out compliance?? Send someone to every shipped router location to see if it is open and available?</DIV>From what I gather on their site, it seems like the router "phones home" to FON.<br><SMALL>--<br>Bring back chicken and potato chips - Vote Perot!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:44:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>TKJunkMail</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  achuchma <A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  andrewhaji <A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>What's stopping people from flashing their routers with DD-WRT and just using it as their own personal router?  There's no guarantee that users will participate in the Fon network. </DIV>There is a $45 charge if the router is not on the network in 30 days.<br> </DIV>And how do they check out compliance?? Send someone to every shipped router location to see if it is open and available?<br><SMALL>--<br>--<BR><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/8n9wl">Join Red Room Forum</A><BR><A HREF="http://tkjunkmail.blogspot.com">BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com</A><BR><A HREF="http://tkjunkmail.googlepages.com">My Web Page</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:43:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256207</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/366313"><b>achuchma</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  andrewhaji <A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>What's stopping people from flashing their routers with DD-WRT and just using it as their own personal router?  There's no guarantee that users will participate in the Fon network. </DIV>There is a $45 charge if the router is not on the network in 30 days.<br><SMALL>--<br>Bring back chicken and potato chips - Vote Perot!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:27:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256177</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/593899"><b>andrewhaji</b></A> : What's stopping people from flashing their routers with DD-WRT and just using it as their own personal router?  There's no guarantee that users will participate in the Fon network.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:22:43 EDT</pubDate>
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