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Re: I guess I'm confused about this issue.... I think you can sum it all up in one word... Money
That is what this is all about. The cable company wants to save money, by not having to deploy DVRs to everyone. This method of time shifting also fits in well with the idea of a switched video service.
For the content providers they see this as competing with their new sales service where you can buy the latest shows from Itunes or other services. The justification for stopping Cablevision comes from the fact that Cablevision is the one doing the recording instead of the consumer. The Supreme Court allowed viewers to make VHS recordings for time shifting, but that ruling says nothing about third parties making the recording for the consumer. So the content providers see this as an opportunity to stop Cablevision or more likely to get Cablevision to pay a fee.
I think the content providers are wrong since Cablevision is only recording what the viewer asks them to record. Still, I can't blame the content providers for trying to make more money. |
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| said by nanoflower:I think you can sum it all up in one word... Money That is what this is all about. The cable company wants to save money, by not having to deploy DVRs to everyone. This method of time shifting also fits in well with the idea of a switched video service. For the content providers they see this as competing with their new sales service where you can buy the latest shows from Itunes or other services. The justification for stopping Cablevision comes from the fact that Cablevision is the one doing the recording instead of the consumer. The Supreme Court allowed viewers to make VHS recordings for time shifting, but that ruling says nothing about third parties making the recording for the consumer. So the content providers see this as an opportunity to stop Cablevision or more likely to get Cablevision to pay a fee. I think the content providers are wrong since Cablevision is only recording what the viewer asks them to record. Still, I can't blame the content providers for trying to make more money. A very good summary of the situation. It will be a year or two before the lawsuit is decided and then appealed and appealed again. So the entertainment industry buys a lot of delay by suing.
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4 edits | said by fAcEtIOUs:said by nanoflower:... I think you can sum it all up in one word... Money ... ... It will be a year or two before the lawsuit is decided and then appealed and appealed again. ... And where will the dollars come from, to fund the lawyers?
On Long Island, there are almost 1 milion subscribers. At $50-$100, and more, each, that is a MONTHLY revenue of 50 to 100 MILLLION dollars. Per month!! Over a billion dollars per year. Enough to fund ALL the services of some countries.
And even with the DVR box, and certainly with the network DVR, what happens when you terminate your service with Cablevision? Poof ... your carefully recorded evidence that the METS or Yankees won the World Series disappears. Even the Supreme Court ruling did NOT comtemplate that. It's NOT "Time Shifting". It is "Money Shifting". From us to a few chosen Dolans, et. al. And what do we charge THEM to share our backyards and public right of ways for their ugly wires?
»Who cares about network DVR anyhow?
»www.mbc-thebridge.com/viewbridge···e_id=457
ooops ... 3 million suscribers ... that is 3 Billion dollars per year, for the "manual" labor in carrying "heavy" photons and electrons down fiber and copper, once the plant is built.  |
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Heaven forbid they just ask their cowsumers to buy the DVR. Doh, no original thinking allowed in their boardrooms.
If the want to reduce the operating costs then mitigate them to their cowsumers. Its not like that hasn't been done by their satellite competitiors. |
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The money will come from the consumers on both sides. That's how these corporate level lawsuits always go. It's a no-win situation for the consumer (as a whole).
As for the DVR box it's the same as if you were renting a physical box. You have to copy the material to a VCR or DVD yourself if you want to keep the material. You won't be able to take the DVR to another company's service so the network DVR isn't a change from that point.
Although it's not clear how long you will be able to do that with the effort the content providers are making to prevent us from making recordings. |
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