Re: Stupid investors.... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16293263 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:48:56 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:48:56 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16303594 grandpinaple : I think the fbi must have gotten him before he could reveal the earth shattering documents. LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16303594 Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:39:27 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296377 nixen :
said by NyQuil Kid See Profile :

And another one joins the ranks of the obtuse; your membership packet is in the mail ;-)

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
You action and your boasts say that you think you know something significant. Well: let's hear it. What great secret to the economy do you actually know. Please help enlighten those of us who are apparently so in the dark.

In other words: put up or shut up.

-tom
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[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296155 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:04:43 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296029 grandpinaple : AT&T is in poverty compared to Verizon even if Verizon spends tons of cash on FIOS there is no way AT&T will ever be in a position to buy them. Give FIOS 1 year after major city MDU deployment and then talk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296029 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:43:38 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296013 grandpinaple : FerricOxide pay him no attention he's just another excited kiddie that has just discovered he can become a PHD by reading wikipedia. WTF do credit cards, etc... have to do with investors pushing companies to forgo future planning (screwing the company and the investor 5 years into the future) in favor of short term rises in profit. These profit rises aren't real as the company didn't have a right to spend that money in the first place. It's kind of like a human saying he is saving money by not buying food and starving himself/herself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16296013 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:41:57 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295456 rachelsfx :
said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Instead of long term growth and stability, they want next day profits and roller coaster prices.

People will pay for good products.
Too bad the USA doesn't think like the Japanese or we'd be the envy rather than Japan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295456 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:11:21 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295271 nixen :
said by NyQuil Kid See Profile :

Personal spending habits have _everything_ to do with investment habits/demand....it's obvious you don't have even the slightest notion of how a modern economy works - it's pretty evident by this thread that you aren't alone in this either.
Oh great prophet of modern economics, do tell us all how it all Really Works™.

-tom
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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295253 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:37:41 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295071 nixen :
said by NyQuil Kid See Profile :

I presume from that statement that you, and others on this board, pay cash for everything and have no debt whatsoever...that you keep a clean personal balance sheet....I mean, if you didn't and used credit cards on a regular basis...why, that would make you a hypocrite and that can't possibly be the case now could it?

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
:uhh:

Personal spending habits have far different impacts than investment habits/demands do. Me having or not having credit card, mortgage or other debt does not cause companies to forego long-term investments to meet the quarter-to-quarter demands of investors.

:uhh:

-tom
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16295071 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:03:49 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16294918 NyQuil Kid : I presume from that statement that you, and others on this board, pay cash for everything and have no debt whatsoever...that you keep a clean personal balance sheet....I mean, if you didn't and used credit cards on a regular basis...why, that would make you a hypocrite and that can't possibly be the case now could it?

[8F] The NyQuil Kid
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said by tsu9 See Profile :

AT&T has much more significant brand recognition than Verizon.
For me, and many here, the AT&T brand is akin to putting a stinking pile of dog shit on the label and trying to sell it....

AT&T stinks, and I don't like them!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293695 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:29:27 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293626 tsu9 : AT&T has much more significant brand recognition than Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293626 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:12:42 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293560 cableties : You are the winner!!!! :)

(Don't forget, they are spending money based on taxes that won't be collected until 2025 and beyond!...if we are lucky! And they expect US to save???)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293560 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:01:34 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293481 KONG4 : You my friend need to reed the book THE MILLIONAIRE NEXT DOOR! That is not in fact how the rich get richer on a broad scale.
The rich get richer because they have a long term vision and have the ability to deny themselves immediate gratification for a long term return.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293481 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:43:48 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293380 dvd536 : i wish VZ would buy qworst so i can get fios.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293380 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:22:48 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293372 dvd536 :
said by NewMariner See Profile :

Obviously your not an investor. Investors want a quick return on their money so they can cash in and re-invest in another stock to make more money. The days of investing in a company for life are long gone.

Its how the rich get richer.
day trading hasn't worked since the dot com bust.
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said by nixen See Profile :

said by tsu9 See Profile :

And that's one of the problems with the current business models.
Gotta love locust economics. It's why this country is being driven down the tubes: mortgaging the future for short term payoff.

-tom
DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293263 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:56:26 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293163 nixen :
said by tsu9 See Profile :

And that's one of the problems with the current business models.
Gotta love locust economics. It's why this country is being driven down the tubes: mortgaging the future for short term payoff.

-tom
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293163 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:36:18 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293129 tsu9 : And that's one of the problems with the current business models.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293129 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:27:27 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293127 Shamayim : Fat pipes, Si! Fat cats, No!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293127 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:27:08 EDT Re: Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293125 ropeguru :
said by Chiyo See Profile :

Wonder if they'll ever roll out into non verizon areas and branch out there footprint?
Sure they will... When that becomes the all encompassing footprint of one large monopolistice telco called AT&T in about the next 5 years.. :D
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Its how the rich get richer. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293115 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:24:08 EDT Stupid investors.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293091 moonpuppy : Instead of long term growth and stability, they want next day profits and roller coaster prices.

People will pay for good products. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16293091 Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:19:02 EDT