Re: I Confess! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16347535 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:30:37 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:30:37 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16361253 fiberguy : Yea... Bush gave us his supreme court. Unfortunately for him his two new pawns have not been kissing his butt.

As the constitution says that the Church may not participate. (Again, you are not paying attention to what I said - just spewing more garbage) The "CHURCH" enjoys it's tax exempt status but that comes at a price. If the church wants to participate in the process of law making, then they pay taxes like everyone else. The "Church" is riding a fine line all the time. In Minnesota, "The Church" is constantly having meetings and getting involved in politics directly.. just thank god their participation is being looked at by the right people.

This ends our discussion.. there's never any consclusion with a religious fanatic since this type always has an answer excuse for everything right or wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16361253 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:00:08 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16354918 footballdude :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Religion in government is inherently amoral. You don't seem to be able to grasp that.
Because it's ungraspable. The vast majority of governments in this world exist purely to exploit those that they govern. That's what's amoral. Allowing religious people (who ARE the majority in America) to have a say in what kind of society we will be and what rules we'll live by isn't. Denying that would be.

It seems to me you're saying you'll live by whatever rules the government comes up with, as long as it wasn't a bunch of Christians who came up with them. You don't really want to go there, do you?
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

Bush ran his election based on tugging at the christian right.. and today, it's the very belief that he let them down.
Bush did one thing for the Christian right. He gave us the Supreme Court.

said by fiberguy See Profile :

To the reason why this country was founded, it may have been founded by christians with certain values in mind, but the constitution disagrees that this is a religious state we have here and in the end, that's all that matters.
The Constitution states that there will be no official state religion. It doesn't say religious people aren't allowed to participate in making the rules.
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Just like many good christians like to hate others.

To the reason why this country was founded, it may have been founded by christians with certain values in mind, but the constitution disagrees that this is a religious state we have here and in the end, that's all that matters.

You need to read some history books as this government did NOT EVER start out as full religion, though many religious people would like to believe it to be true. This country was found on the fact that they were trying to escape religious persecution and the tyrany of not being able to worship on their own. If you want to see and or know where the role of the church in this country belongs, just look back about 6 to 10 years... you must be blind if you can't see people more and more trying to push religion into the public place and policy. Bush ran his election based on tugging at the christian right.. and today, it's the very belief that he let them down.

You don't get out much do you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16354767 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:35:35 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16354550 tiger72 : i see people talking past each other]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16354550 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:06:27 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16353667 RadioDoc :
said by footballdude See Profile :

Dogma? At what point have I degenerated into dogma? Let me reiterate what I said before. If there is no God, then there is no reason you shouldn't do whatever you want in life, so long as you don't get caught. This is expediency, not morality. Yes, some religious people are complete idiots. Again, people are flawed, which is why we must look to something greater than ourselves.
You presume that we are all incapable of controlling ourselves unless we believe in some all-powerful cosmic muffin?

I am quite sure that many "godless heathen" manage to not murder, rape and plunder every day. I am also quite sure that many of the so-called "god-fearing" do in fact murder, rape and plunder every day.

You can present no evidence that atheists believe "there is no reason you shouldn't do whatever you want in life, so long as you don't get caught". Assuming that a "god" is required for someone to have a conscience and live a moral life is patently absurd.

I'll say it again: Religion is an outgrowth of morality. Morality can and does exist quite nicely outside of religion. Religion does not guarantee morals. Religion in government is inherently amoral. You don't seem to be able to grasp that.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Backward? Man, when do you not toe the party line?
Party line? I thought we were discussing one of the basic philosophies of life. I'm not even sure what you mean when you say 'party line'.
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

How you manage to mangle that into some kind of religious dogma is pretty fascinating. I'll reiterate that religion is not a prerequisite for moral behavior. It can be a guide, but it's not required. Some "deeply religious" people are utterly amoral.
Dogma? At what point have I degenerated into dogma? Let me reiterate what I said before. If there is no God, then there is no reason you shouldn't do whatever you want in life, so long as you don't get caught. This is expediency, not morality. Yes, some religious people are complete idiots. Again, people are flawed, which is why we must look to something greater than ourselves.
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Now that I've seen your posting signature, however, I understand your position. Ann Coulter is your god. Perfect example of an amoral 'religious' leech.
Ann Coulter is my god? Now you're just being mean. Regardless of your views on evolution, that quote is funny. Lighten up.
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Here's Merriam Webster's definition. Maybe they are backward, too...

Main Entry: mo·ral·i·ty
Pronunciation: m&-'ra-l&-tE, mo-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 a : a moral discourse, statement, or lesson b : a literary or other imaginative work teaching a moral lesson
2 a : a doctrine or system of moral conduct b plural : particular moral principles or rules of conduct
3 : conformity to ideals of right human conduct
4 : moral conduct : VIRTUE
And just to be thorough...

Main Entry: mor·al
Pronunciation: 'mor-&l, 'mär-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin moralis, from mor-, mos custom
1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ETHICAL b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment e : capable of right and wrong action
2 : probable though not proved : VIRTUAL
3 : having the effects of such on the mind, confidence, or will
- mor·al·ly /-&-lE/ adverb
synonyms MORAL, ETHICAL, VIRTUOUS, RIGHTEOUS, NOBLE mean conforming to a standard of what is right and good. MORAL implies conformity to established sanctioned codes or accepted notions of right and wrong . ETHICAL may suggest the involvement of more difficult or subtle questions of rightness, fairness, or equity . VIRTUOUS implies the possession or manifestation of moral excellence in character . RIGHTEOUS stresses guiltlessness or blamelessness and often suggests the sanctimonious . NOBLE implies moral eminence and freedom from anything petty, mean, or dubious in conduct and character .
How you manage to mangle that into some kind of religious dogma is pretty fascinating. I'll reiterate that religion is not a prerequisite for moral behavior. It can be a guide, but it's not required. Some "deeply religious" people are utterly amoral.

Now that I've seen your posting signature, however, I understand your position. Ann Coulter is your god. Perfect example of an amoral 'religious' leech.

Have a nice life. Stay out of mine.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

So, footballdude, since the church believes murder is immoral, how does the church explain away the death penalty? There are many documented cases where Christians stand by the death penalty at every turn.
Last I looked, most Christian churches (including Catholics) were AGAINST the death penalty.

said by fiberguy See Profile :

Shall I point you to the state of North Carolina where a prosecutor, who happens to be a good standing christian, was proved with out a doubt to have with held evidence that would have cleared the very innocent man he tried and put on death row to die? He was innocent all along, but that christian - as many others - blindly stood by him to see this man die.

I guess this blows apart your murder is wrong story, huh? We know Christians have 'the' answer for everything, right?
With billions of Christians on the planet, there's bound to be a few bad apples. I'm beginning to think you don't know anything at all about Christianity. We believe GOD has all the answers, not each of us.

All of this is besides the point, anyway. This started by your complaining that too much religion is being pushed into government and my pointing out that this government was put together by a group of deeply religious people for the purpose of governing a population of deeply religious people. Certainly things have changed over the last two hundred years but I don't think you can reasonably state that someone is 'pushing religion into government' when the government started out full of religion.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

The concepts of morality and civility are not defined by religion, however religions very well might be defined by their morality and civility. You've got your cart before the horse.
Wow, is that backward. The whole point of religion is to define morality. You find out who God is and what he wants from you and attempt to apply it to everyday life. If someone doesn't believe in something bigger than them, then there is no right and wrong, only what's expedient.
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said by xdeadhead See Profile :

i simply must get a job there. how do "they" recruit new applicants?

oh wait, the phone is ringing......
The first rule about NSA Secret Rooms is... You will fight!
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by airoff See Profile :

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

Benjamin Franklin
This quote is trotted out at least once a week here. It is overused and barely relevant in the modern world of terrorism. Besides, no essential liberties are being given up, and to describe the threat to security as temporary is mistaken.
Spoken like someone who swallows the whole flawed Bush line, hook, line, sinker, rod and reel, and maybe stops just short of Bush's nuts.

How is freedom not relevant in the "modern world of terrorism?" Are you saying that all freedom and liberty is off the table because this administration is too stupid to know how to deal with a decentralized group like Al Qaeda and is flailing wildly to try and come up with some way of dealing with it?

As for the threat to security being permanent, isn't that exactly what Big Brother argued in 1984? "Oceania has always been at war with East Asia." A "permanent" threat justifies a permanent assault on liberty. This is no more permanent a threat than were the terrorist threats of the '70s (or can you remember that?). There was no wholesale assault on liberty after OKC was there???

Funny how you right wing types will always back those "wise old dead white guys" when they talk about morals or religion but not uncomfortable subjects like freedom....
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said by kimmer7 See Profile :

Wow, what a rant. Now if it was only true, it would be have been pretty good.

Maintained power through fear and hate? I will not disagree that there is hate and fear in America, but I think it has more to do with certain people flying planes into buildings and killing 3,000 US citizens. The same certain people who have vowed in the media to attack us again.
Rewritten laws to grant more power to the executive branch? Sorry, you need a civics lesson. The president doesnt write laws, nor does he pass laws. Congress does that, a congress that is full of people who disagree with President Bush.
Setup and sanctioned torture of "enemy combatants? Um, I would be real interested in seeing where you get this from. I haven't seen a single shred of proof anywhere that President Bush setup and sanctioned torture. Are you talking about the guy in Guantanamo being forced to wear a bra on his head? I feel so sorry for him, his life must be hell. I will be sure to think of that while I pray for the poor soldiers who were mutilated and boobytrapped by the "freedom fighters" of Iraq. I guess we have different ideas of what Torture is. As for what some stupid soldiers did for fun at Abu Ghraib, 9 different investigations showed that stacking people in naked pyramids was not policy directed by the whitehouse.

So yes, claiming the USA right now is similiar to early Nazi Germany is grossly stupid.
But some people know more about the history then either of us do so they maybe correct about the nature of the event being repeated again, cause no one had done their homework or learned from history.
History is bound to repeat itself again whether you notice it or not. To consolidate power... If knowledge is power then you must seek it but do not use it for evil purpose, absolute power corrupts all including those who were once good. If they can get away with mass murdering people behind our back, why is it not possible? What's to stop them? The clueless bunch like ya say it couldn't happen or are asleep. It's not visible to the naked eye since it is all being done privately and using mass persuasion to convince the average citizen that its ok to invade their privacy.

I must wake you up before it is too late...

Better late then never.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16350228 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:58:48 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16349653 xdeadhead : i simply must get a job there. how do "they" recruit new applicants?

oh wait, the phone is ringing......
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said by airoff See Profile :

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

Benjamin Franklin
This quote is trotted out at least once a week here. It is overused and barely relevant in the modern world of terrorism. Besides, no essential liberties are being given up, and to describe the threat to security as temporary is mistaken.
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Benjamin Franklin]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16349246 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:28:33 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16349209 fiberguy : ...and atheists and non-Christians believe it's immoral to have state sponsored death penalties too. (Just taking a crack at where the majority is when it comes to applying the death penalty in this country)..

So, footballdude, since the church believes murder is immoral, how does the church explain away the death penalty? There are many documented cases where Christians stand by the death penalty at every turn. Oh wait, it's only for criminals, right? The non-innocent. Please tell me again how many innocent people have been put to death again? Shall I point you to the state of North Carolina where a prosecutor, who happens to be a good standing christian, was proved with out a doubt to have with held evidence that would have cleared the very innocent man he tried and put on death row to die? He was innocent all along, but that christian - as many others - blindly stood by him to see this man die.

I guess this blows apart your murder is wrong story, huh? We know Christians have 'the' answer for everything, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16349209 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:22:45 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16348526 nixen :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
IS IT????

Yeah, right now, at the bequest of the Bush administration, and under the authorization of the Patriot Act, millions of people are being gassed in waterless showers, and shoved in crematoriums, some still alive. Right now, Donald Rumsfeld has a lampshade made from human skin, and millions of gypsies, Poles, Solvaks, Jews, Russians, and homosexuals are toiling away in slave camps to make vengeance weapons so Bush can take over the world.

Sorry, you may not like the present administration in power, you may very well hate them. But, the fact that you can freely speak out against them and not end up a jar of ashes floating down the river Rhine is proof enough that comparing it to the Nazi state is nothing but the pointless drivel of an undisputed ass hat.
First, not saying we're a "nazi state."

That said, it's not like the most egregious excesses of Nazi Germany were there from day one.

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Maintained power through fear and hate? I will not disagree that there is hate and fear in America, but I think it has more to do with certain people flying planes into buildings and killing 3,000 US citizens. The same certain people who have vowed in the media to attack us again.
Rewritten laws to grant more power to the executive branch? Sorry, you need a civics lesson. The president doesnt write laws, nor does he pass laws. Congress does that, a congress that is full of people who disagree with President Bush.
Setup and sanctioned torture of "enemy combatants? Um, I would be real interested in seeing where you get this from. I haven't seen a single shred of proof anywhere that President Bush setup and sanctioned torture. Are you talking about the guy in Guantanamo being forced to wear a bra on his head? I feel so sorry for him, his life must be hell. I will be sure to think of that while I pray for the poor soldiers who were mutilated and boobytrapped by the "freedom fighters" of Iraq. I guess we have different ideas of what Torture is. As for what some stupid soldiers did for fun at Abu Ghraib, 9 different investigations showed that stacking people in naked pyramids was not policy directed by the whitehouse.

So yes, claiming the USA right now is similiar to early Nazi Germany is grossly stupid. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16348439 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:19 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347535 anon : or could it by the 1984 Denver Broncos!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347535 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:18:38 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347993 RadioDoc : Thank you for proving my point.

Murder is universally considered immoral,is illegal just about everywhere, and that has nothing to do with religion. Atheists and agnostics have morals. Religion is not a prerequisite. Being an atheist does not automatically make you a murderer.

Right-wing pseudo-Christian extremists are attempting to redefine morality to fit their own warped view of the world, and force others to abide by it. That's religious tyranny, and is my point exactly.

Government can function quite nicely without religion. The concepts of morality and civility are not defined by religion, however religions very well might be defined by their morality and civility. You've got your cart before the horse.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Such laws force everyone into "going to church".
(also replying to fiberguy)
Why is murder illegal? Because it's immoral. Or, more to the point, the people who created the law found it to be immoral. The same can be said about nearly all laws. Socialists think it immoral for a CEO to make too much money and would pass a law placing a salary cap on CEO pay were they in power. Green Party people think it immoral to cut down trees and would make it illegal were they in power. Christians think abortion immoral and those who've been elected by them are trying to make it illegal now that they're in power. You cannot separate morality and religion from government and everyday life.
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On the issue of religion in government. I can't see how anyone has a problem with prayer in school, especially in private session. As long as no one is forced to pray, or believe in a particular religion, then there really is no violation of the establishment clause. I mean, in private? You really have a problem with people praying in private in a school? This is a real head scratcher for me. I would think someone would have the right to pray in private wherever they want. What if I'm Muslim and I have to pray 5 times a day? Are you going to deny me the right to practice my religion just because I attend a public school? I I'm by no means some wacko religious zealot, I haven't even been to a church service ( I was raised catholic, but rarely attend, if ever any more) in close to 5 years. Don't get me wrong, I don't think kids should be forced to pray at all, or even have a moment of silence if they don't want to, but in private? You got me, man..

One of the local churches rents the middle school cafeteria in my school district because their congregation has gotten too large for their church. Is that a problem?

There is a historical argument when it comes to the display of the 10 commandments in/on a court house. IMHO, another political red herring for BOTH sides of the issue. My opinion? WHO GIVES A SHIT. Big deal. Post yesterday's baseball scores, or a list of Spongebob Squarepants quotes for all I care, as long as I get a fair hearing when I walk in the courtroom.

I mean, on any of the issues listed above, I'm not picking up a protest sign and screaming slogans for either side. I couldn't care less who marries who (I have no intrest in being married, anyway), who prays where(I don't pray all that much, myself), and whats posted at the door of the courthouse (I spend WAY too much time in court :().

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347506 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:06:54 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347128 RadioDoc : We see the government attempting to pass laws based solely on a certain right-wing pseudo-Christian religious dogma, a la "gay marriage", abortion, etc. Such laws force everyone into "going to church".
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No, once again you are trying to make my original comment into something that it's not. Don't assume,... ask. Of course there are no laws forcing people into church. If you think that being forced into church is the only thing that qualifies government's push of religion onto the public, then maybe it's time to broaded your views.

The government is made up of many people of many beliefs and faiths and other personal mindsets. Yes, some of those beliefs are interjected into the way they govern and do their job. However, when you abuse the power you were given to force the view and beliefs of the church into public policy, THAT is where government is pushing religion into the private sector. There are many areas where that line between the two is crossed regularly and those in power to make corrections (our checks and balances) can often fail. It sometimes takes a few generations to get it right.

There is a battle right now fighting that line and it's heating up as we all know.

What IS obvious is the push of the following:

- Faith based funding by the government for charitable reasons.

- Setting up prayer in public school, private sessions or not.

- The need to push the 10 commandments on public courthouses or governmental buildings... Existing monuments or not. (Just because something was there for a while doesn't make it right)

- Banning gay marriage, which was never illegal until about the 70's, is a push by the church. It's a drive of the church to violate the rights of a group of tax paying citizens the same rights as others, because of the church.

...just add any of the changes to the laws and constitutions that are being driven "by the church" and tell me that church's are not pushing their agenda onto the general public via the government. In case you didn't know, church has no business in the people's government - well, they can, but they loose their tax exempt status, and I am PERFECTLY ok with that!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16347116 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:07:52 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346988 footballdude :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

It's a problem when religious people in government--and in power--use said power to force their morality on others who disagree.
All laws are a relection of morality to one extent or another. Just as all government is a restriction of freedom. The OP claimed that people were increasingly pushing religion into government. Since I haven't seen any laws forcing anyone into going to church I can only assume he means there are too many religious people assuming power. Which is a patently absurd statement.
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said by MrMaster See Profile :

ON MY GOD!!! I knew it!!! Finally, proof of the nazi regime's hold on the country. Damn that Bush!!!
If you think that proof is neat you should see what my room dug up on the JFK assassination :)
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Yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346865 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:34:27 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346766 Michieru2 : Sure ;). If you need to borrow some Clorox feel free to ask. :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346766 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:20:17 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346751 pnh102 :
said by Michieru2 See Profile :

I was simply laughing over that he has a dirty bathroom.
Hey! I've always kept my bathroom immaculately clean. It's just difficult to spy on people when everything is in a small room. Not to mention how the steam from the shower doesn't play nice with the computer equipment... it was just better to move it all out of there.
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Everyone knows that if you pull a fast move your going to be obvious do it slowly over the year's and you can make it through without notice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346744 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:17:54 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346693 Michieru2 : Don't state the obvious, I have already been aware of concentration camps around the United States since March. It was reported by »pagina12.com.ar

I was simply laughing over that he has a dirty bathroom.

I think you need to stop judging people simply over a one word comment. Really not a lot of data to say the least.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346693 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:12:22 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346685 tiger72 :
said by attsbcisgay See Profile :

said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Haha :D
YOU MAYBE LAUGHING NOW BUT YOU WON'T BE LATER WHEN LIFE HAS BECOME SERIOUS FOR YA.
KEEP LAUGHING AND REMEMBER NOT TO CRY EVEN IF SOMEONE puts you in concentration camp... there's a lot around you and all over the united states. You sir need to get your head out of the ground and look around, that is all I ask.
Bush may be a douchebag, but he's definitely not smart enough or cunning enough to pull a hitler. Hitler was able to convince the people to GIVE him the power he wanted voluntarily. Bush is still at step 1, messing around with congress to make gays second class citizens - hitler would have long ago dismissed congress, and made all undesireables 3rd rate citizens years ago.

No worries.
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said by tsu9 See Profile :

I suppose that explains why one of the bathrooms at work is protected by a keycard scanner.

Devious!
I prefer an RFID reader... mainly because keycards can get swiped to death, and because of the negative connotation that RFID technology has in general. :)
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said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Haha :D
YOU MAYBE LAUGHING NOW BUT YOU WON'T BE LATER WHEN LIFE HAS BECOME SERIOUS FOR YA.
KEEP LAUGHING AND REMEMBER NOT TO CRY EVEN IF SOMEONE puts you in concentration camp... there's a lot around you and all over the united states. You sir need to get your head out of the ground and look around, that is all I ask.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346633 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:03:49 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346610 attsbcisgay :
said by MrMaster See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
IS IT????

Yeah, right now, at the bequest of the Bush administration, and under the authorization of the Patriot Act, millions of people are being gassed in waterless showers, and shoved in crematoriums, some still alive. Right now, Donald Rumsfeld has a lampshade made from human skin, and millions of gypsies, Poles, Solvaks, Jews, Russians, and homosexuals are toiling away in slave camps to make vengeance weapons so Bush can take over the world.
ON MY GOD!!! I knew it!!! Finally, proof of the nazi regime's hold on the country. Damn that Bush!!!

Thank you ever so much for confirming this for me. I knew it all along!
Are you asleep? Better to be informed then to be misinformed. You are a frog who is being boiled alive slowly, one step at a time. Since you don't notice by the time you wanna jump out, it is then too late!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346610 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:00:33 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346528 RadioDoc :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
Who's Brian?
Brian Patrocic. He's one happing dude.
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Where did I say that religion has no place in public life? If anything, people like me believe that religion is a personal choice and right that everyone has afforded to them. If you choose to practice religion, great, if not, GREAT TOO! See how that works? To me, the only thing that government needs to do is protect the rights of people to practice their religion of choice... not push it, not sponsor it.. nothing.

So, in your words? Relgion and god, in my view, have no place in 'government"...

..and for the record, since you don't know each president personally, you can't say exactly why each president has called for a national day of prayer. Could it be that it's the popular thing to do? Statistics show that many americans are religious to some point. Presidents say many things and may not believe every thing they say.. but, it does sound good too. Some people just need to have their views validated by someone else instead of feeling good about their own personal choices. (Hey, and there we have part of what makes up religion!)

But, I do thank you for the lesson of the history of the obvious. RadioDoc said it best in his post below this one. You should read it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346526 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:49:19 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346515 pnh102 :
said by bigunk See Profile :

I thought it was Kevin?
No they freed him already.
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said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
Who's Brian?
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said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
IS IT????

Yeah, right now, at the bequest of the Bush administration, and under the authorization of the Patriot Act, millions of people are being gassed in waterless showers, and shoved in crematoriums, some still alive. Right now, Donald Rumsfeld has a lampshade made from human skin, and millions of gypsies, Poles, Solvaks, Jews, Russians, and homosexuals are toiling away in slave camps to make vengeance weapons so Bush can take over the world.
ON MY GOD!!! I knew it!!! Finally, proof of the nazi regime's hold on the country. Damn that Bush!!!

Thank you ever so much for confirming this for me. I knew it all along!
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said by footballdude See Profile :

The people who created this country and the documents they used to seal the deal were all massively religious in nature and execution. Honestly, read a history book!
Keep reading that history book, because also in it is a primary reason those who created this country came here...to escape the tyranny of a state-sanctioned religion. They may have been very religious, but they were keenly aware of what it was like to be persecuted for practicing the "wrong" religion.
said by footballdude See Profile :

It's not a problem that religious people are involved in government, it's a problem when people (like you?) think religion and God have no place in public life.
You're close. It's a problem when religious people in government--and in power--use said power to force their morality on others who disagree. You can be religious all you want--with yourself and your God--but as soon as you attempt to force me to do it with you, you've become one of the tyrants this country was founded to escape from.
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said by dslhater See Profile :

Then it must be legal :D Does this mean they heard me tell my girlfriend I wanted to $%&^ *% %&# @**? Good lord I am worried :hmm:
The christian conservatives will ask to make "$%&^ *% %&# @**" illegal soon, then you'll be worried about talking over the phone about it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346332 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:18:46 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16346289 Camelot One :
said by JSRoman See Profile :

said by willp1 See Profile :

I just heard that the Village of East Texas also know as G.W.Bush and his adminstration of maroons are changing the name of this country to. The Soviet union of AMERICAN STATES OR NAZIS STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!

SIEG HEIL FUHRER BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Usually I let idiotic comments like this go by but it is getting really old. The Bush = Nazi equation is so stupid that you really have to have no brain activity to come up with that analogy.
I have to chime in here, because both sides of the argument are flawed. Yes you are correct, Bush is not Hitler.

However.....
Hitler came to and maintained power in Germany using hate and fear. The Germans were in a bad place, and he was kind enough to point out to them who was to blame for it. He then used this fear/hatred as an excuse to change the laws, remove people's freedoms, and to push public opinion toward supporting a war. A war I might add, against people who had nothing to do with the problems at hand. Concentration camps and the genocide against the Jews didn't happen over night, there was a long progression, one step at a time, slowly stripping away rights and adding new laws. It began with setting up a police state, in which all citizens were monitored by the government, just in case they might be doing something wrong.

We do in fact have a leader who has maintained power through fear and hate of those "not American". We do in fact have a leader who has slowly but surely eroded the constitutional rights of the people. We do in fact have a leader who has rewritten laws to grant more power to the executive branch, and in cases those changes have failed, he flat out ignores the laws to begin with. We do in fact have a leader who has setup and sanctioned torture of "enemy combatants", so long as it is done on foreign soil. We do in fact have a leader who has ordered government agencies to ignore laws of the land and our own constitution in the name of "weeding out the enemy". We do in fact have a leader who has signed laws granting police and other law enforcement agencies the right to enter our homes with no notice before or after, without the trouble of getting a warrant. And we do (in credible claim) have the government monitoring every phone conversation we have.

So while I agree Bush is no Hitler, and we are no where near another Holocaust, claiming any comparison between the current state of things and those of early Nazi Germany is stupid....well that just doesn't fly either.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

The governmnet is pushing religion into governmnet all the time more and more.
The people who created this country and the documents they used to seal the deal were all massively religious in nature and execution. Honestly, read a history book!

Every session of Congress opens with a prayer. Christmas is a national holiday. Every president I can remember has called for a national day of prayer. Even the money we use has 'In God We Trust' written on it. Read George Washington's first presidential address. Hell, read damn near anything written by the people who fought the revolutionary war. It's not a problem that religious people are involved in government, it's a problem when people (like you?) think religion and God have no place in public life.
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There are many ways to take away from people. One way is to do it like the Nazi state and just do it. The other is to change things slowly and little at a time.

No, Bush isn't a Nazi completely. But, he's becoming more of a dictator and running this country in his and his own friends interests vs the best interest of the people in many ways.

The power to speak out against the government is not an end-all.. The governmnet is pushing religion into governmnet all the time more and more. Further, it's pushing it on other countries as well. When was the last time the administration made a comment about how our countries muslims are helping other muslims in the middle east? now, how many times do you hear about the compassionate christians from the U.S. over there doing good?

This administration is full of itself and the people aren't stupid. It only took 6 years for many to figure it out, but this lame duck is transparent and useless.

I still would compare this administration to the Nazi state becuase they all start somewhere.

Remember, Bush said "the constitution? It's just a piece of paper".... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345723 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:47:05 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345632 rradina : But you're actually doing illegal things and your plan is to keep the NSA staff intoxicated so they won't report you. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345632 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:30:22 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345614 N3OGH :
said by willp1 See Profile :

I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act
IS IT????

Yeah, right now, at the bequest of the Bush administration, and under the authorization of the Patriot Act, millions of people are being gassed in waterless showers, and shoved in crematoriums, some still alive. Right now, Donald Rumsfeld has a lampshade made from human skin, and millions of gypsies, Poles, Solvaks, Jews, Russians, and homosexuals are toiling away in slave camps to make vengeance weapons so Bush can take over the world.

Sorry, you may not like the present administration in power, you may very well hate them. But, the fact that you can freely speak out against them and not end up a jar of ashes floating down the river Rhine is proof enough that comparing it to the Nazi state is nothing but the pointless drivel of an undisputed ass hat.

ASS HAT....

/rant off]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345614 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:27:00 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345607 tsu9 : I suppose that explains why one of the bathrooms at work is protected by a keycard scanner.

Devious!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345607 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:25:33 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345574 N3OGH :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by HawkI911 See Profile :

it's actually in the housing code in texas now where you have to have a minimum, 5'x5' air conditioned room under lock and key for the NSA to sit in if they suspect you of terrorism.
Those wimps. My NSA room is at least 15x15, has a fully stocked wet bar, beer on tap, multiple redundant Tier-1 connections... the works!
My NSA room is in an old warehouse in the industrial area of Baltimore. It was really nice, totally isolated from the outside world.

But then I had to blow it up after Will Smith made a phone call....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345574 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:20:21 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345521 willp1 : I guess you must be no brianer because it is all ready happing!!!!!!!!!!!Lookat the Patrocic act]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345521 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:11:36 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345520 pnh102 :
said by pcnetworx1 See Profile :

Hey pnh, I had an epiphany because of ur comment:
I don't doubt it... lots of people tell me that.
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Nazi States of America

NSA

A sign? *pulls out tinfoil roll*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345509 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:10:12 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16345403 TKJunkMail :
said by ieolus See Profile :

You got it protected with retinal scanners like AT&T?
No, mine is protected by rectal scanners. Just take a seat before entering the secret room. :D
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said by hahahahaahahahaha :

I waiting for the black agents to come rushing to my door and take me away lol.
Fear not! I hire agents of all backgrounds and ethnicities.
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said by JSRoman See Profile :

Usually I let idiotic comments like this go by but it is getting really old.
I'll bet you that by the time the 2006 elections come around, there will be at least one NSA secret room, staffed by illegal aliens, in every single ZIP code in the USA. I'm keeping an eye on Salon to let me know where they are exactly.
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said by dslhater See Profile :

Hmm now that I think about it this technology Kenny possesses could be of interest to the Gov hold on these dudes dressed in black are knocking on the door (Damn Mormons again)...
Aside from them trying to kill Kenny, they are still working on finding out who Cartman's biological mother is.
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said by HawkI911 See Profile :

dangit, nobody will want to come to my secret nsa spy room now. :(
I used to have that problem, but it was resolved after I moved it out of the bathroom.
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said by willp1 See Profile :

I just heard that the Village of East Texas also know as G.W.Bush and his adminstration of maroons are changing the name of this country to. The Soviet union of AMERICAN STATES OR NAZIS STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!

SIEG HEIL FUHRER BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Usually I let idiotic comments like this go by but it is getting really old. The Bush = Nazi equation is so stupid that you really have to have no brain activity to come up with that analogy.
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said by ieolus See Profile :

You got it protected with retinal scanners like AT&T?
Shhhh... it's a secret!
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said by willp1 See Profile :

The Soviet union of AMERICAN STATES OR NAZIS STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!
Nah, that'll never work, it's way too long to fit on printed stationary.
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SIEG HEIL FUHRER BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16344959 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:39:36 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16344935 HawkI911 : dangit, nobody will want to come to my secret nsa spy room now. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16344935 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:32:47 EDT Re: I Confess! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16344934 dslhater : LOL I am worried but not for my boy Kenny he regenerates for no reason. Hmm now that I think about it this technology Kenny possesses could be of interest to the Gov hold on these dudes dressed in black are knocking on the door (Damn Mormons again)...
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said by HawkI911 See Profile :

it's actually in the housing code in texas now where you have to have a minimum, 5'x5' air conditioned room under lock and key for the NSA to sit in if they suspect you of terrorism.
Those wimps. My NSA room is at least 15x15, has a fully stocked wet bar, beer on tap, multiple redundant Tier-1 connections... the works!
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said by dslhater See Profile :

Then it must be legal :D Does this mean they heard me tell my girlfriend I wanted to $%&^ *% %&# @**? Good lord I am worried :hmm:
You should be worried... I heard that they were planning on killing Kenny too!
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