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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : On the contrary, MOST providers are not FTTC (curbside) or for that matter "DEEP FIBER" under 5 miles to 100% of the homes passed. You need to check with the deployment maps of major service providers outside of cablevision land!<br><br>There are specific map locations of where the FTTX switches are deployed.. as they need to know EXACTLY where their equipment is in the field or you might have a bunch of mexicans-ahem- illegals walk off with your equipment and sell it for scrap (ahem, cough, cough, Miami)... Shameless electric fence shock for the mexicans out there, appologies in advance..<br><br>:)<br><br>Look there are TWO sides of the coin here... upgrade for 95% of the cost now....... or make it completely fiber for the extra 5% and be able to sleep at night, knowing that you will just need to change nodes, end-user ont's and headend modulation equipment, or you can buy the complete upgrade package from narad later, seeing as it will be proprietary (one provider) that's a single edged sword cablevision is swollowing, and what happens if they get greedy down the road? Verizon is 3 off-the-shelf rfp's supporting ont, fiber lines, and head-end equipment. So unless they collude(illegal), that won't happen.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:10:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/168864"><b>sporkme</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  pabster <A HREF="/useremail/u/534471"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>That all depends. Most have deployed FTTN. So it really depends how far off that node connection is. Where I live it isn't very far at all. Extending it to each house will involve costs, but not as much (nearly) as what Verizon is enduring with FiOS.<br> </DIV>Exactly.  Cable has the advantage of being able to do lots of things incrementally, whereas something like FiOS is a complete rebuild - that's obviously going to cost more.<br><SMALL>--<br><I>Day dreaming days in a daydream nation</I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:50:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  TKJunkMail <A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by fewbuyersforthis :</SMALL><br><br>not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits. </DIV>That is true. Comcast mostly has done fiber to the neighborhood implementations. To extend fiber to the pedestals or the poles outside of houses would mean a major upgrade that would take billions of dollars and many years.<br> </DIV>No, not true.  Considering Verizon is deploying it in only a matter of a few months for an entire city, the fiber is already there on the cable tv side, all the way to the neighborhood.  This can easily be extended.<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:36:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/534471"><b>pabster</b></A> : That all depends. Most have deployed FTTN. So it really depends how far off that node connection is. Where I live it isn't very far at all. Extending it to each house will involve costs, but not as much (nearly) as what Verizon is enduring with FiOS.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:36:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/594412"><b>TKJunkMail</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by fewbuyersforthis :</SMALL><br><br>not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits. </DIV>That is true. Comcast mostly has done fiber to the neighborhood implementations. To extend fiber to the pedestals or the poles outside of houses would mean a major upgrade that would take billions of dollars and many years.<br><SMALL>--<br>--<BR><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/8n9wl">Join Red Room Forum</A><BR><A HREF="http://tkjunkmail.blogspot.com">BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com</A><BR><A HREF="http://tkjunkmail.googlepages.com">My Web Page</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:17:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits.<br><br>BTW, it would be a "monopoly provider" as well, have you seen an "off the shelf" 100/100 cablemodem lately?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:05:48 EDT</pubDate>
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