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<title>Senate deals blow to Net neutrality</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : From <A HREF="http://news.com.com/Senate+deals+blow+to+Net+neutrality/2100-1028_3-6089197.html?tag=st.txt.caro">CNET News</A>:<br>Published: June 28, 2006<BLOCKQUOTE>WASHINGTON--A U.S. Senate panel narrowly rejected strict Net neutrality rules on Wednesday, dealing a grave setback to companies like eBay, Google and Amazon.com that had made enacting them a top political priority this year.<br><br>By an 11-11 tie, the Senate Commerce Committee failed to approve a Democrat-backed amendment that would have ensured all Internet traffic is treated the same no matter what its "source" or "destination" might be. A majority was needed for the amendment to succeed.<br><br>Republican committee members attacked the idea of inserting Net neutrality regulations in a massive telecommunications bill, echoing comments from broadband providers like AT&T and Verizon, which warned the rules were premature and unnecessary.<br><br>Democrats had rallied behind an amendment, adapted from a <A HREF="http://news.com.com/Net+neutrality+field+in+Congress+gets+crowded/2100-1028_3-6074564.html?tag=nl">standalone bill</A> they offered in May, which would have barred network operators from discriminating "in the carriage and treatment of Internet traffic based on the source, destination or ownership of such traffic."</BLOCKQUOTE>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:59:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Berners-Lee, Inventor of World Wide Web, on Net Neutrality</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/456867"><b>Zev0</b></A> : DAMN!!!  and here I thought Al Gore invented the internet all this time.  :o  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:47:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Berners-Lee, Inventor of World Wide Web, on Net Neutrality</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/231170"><b>Wildcatboy</b></A> : <br>What a lot of people don't understand is that the lack of net neutrality isn't just about big companies. Most people think who cares about which company makes more money and which doesn't. It won't affect us because we're not one of those big shots and what they do won't affect us.<br><br>The truth is that not having net neutrality could have a profound effect on our freedom of speech and our freedom of choice and that is what we should focus on. To me, nothing is more important. This is how lack of net neutrality can affect us all:<br><br>Imagine you have a web site that you trust and you get most of your news from. Company X finds their niche to be a lucrative one and company X happens to control the bandwidth on major routers and switches. The next day you try to go to your favourite web site as usual, and you find that the site loads slowly. The problem continues for weeks and gets worse every day. Then you happen to see Company X is providing the same kind of information at a blazing fast speed. You leave your favourite web site and use them instead. Your favourite site eventually shuts down and then Site X feeds you whatever garbage they feel like, because no one is competing with them anymore. <br><br>Multiply this scenario by thousands and then you realize that in a few years The Internet is not going to be what you know today. Right now, major portals are competing on a level ground and by providing valuable content to give them the upper hand. But with the lack of Net Neutrality, they no longer have to play fair. They can shut the bandwidth on competitors and then they no longer have to offer much value. You won't have a choice but to read what they give you to read. It's not going to happen tomorrow. It's not going to happen next year. But it will happen. There's just too much money in it for them to ignore the opportunity. Not enforcing Net Neutrality means guaranteeing monopoly.<br><br>This is just an attempt to make The Internet as useless as major TV Networks and Newspapers. They'll give you the news they want you to know and hold on to what they think you can't handle or shouldn't know. They'll tell you who your next president should be and because that's the only voice you hear day in and day out, you will eventually believe it. They have been doing it forever with Newspapers and TV and now they want to do it with the Internet because the Internet has become the single most dangerous threat to their agenda. <br><br>The government doesn't mind it either. In fact they welcome it. Because They can control a handful of big companies and make them do the things they want from time to time, but they can't control Billions of people around the world. Not to mention that big companies will gladly bribe your representatives in Congress as they have been, but the average Joe living in some remote area doesn't have much to offer.<br><SMALL>--<br><B><A HREF="/forum/security">You can catch the Devil, but you can't hold him long.</A></B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:53:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Berners-Lee, Inventor of World Wide Web, on Net Neutrality</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16400330</link>
<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1362364"><b>BB1984</b></A> : Thanks for that SUMware - always appreciate your info. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:16:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Berners-Lee, Inventor of World Wide Web, on Net Neutrality</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1193253"><b>SpannerITWks</b></A> : Thanx, i hope Spy1 has seen this, probably has !<br><br>Spanner]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:14:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Berners-Lee, Inventor of World Wide Web, on Net Neutrality</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee">Who is</A>:<br><B>Sir Timothy "Tim" John Berners-Lee</B>, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire">KBE</A>, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Society">FRS</A> (TimBL or TBL) (born June 8, 1955 in London) <B>is the inventor of the World Wide Web and director of the World Wide Web Consortium</B>, which oversees its continued development.<br><br><A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/">Tim Berners-Lee</A>:<br>A graduate of Oxford University, England, Tim now holds the 3Com Founders chair at the Laboratory for Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab (CSAIL) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). He directs the World Wide Web Consortium, an open forum of companies and organizations with the mission to lead the Web to its full potential.<br><br>With a background of system design in real-time communications and text processing software development, in 1989 he invented the World Wide Web, an internet-based hypermedia initiative for global information sharing. while working at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory. He wrote the first web client (browser-editor) and server in 1990.<br><br>Before coming to CERN, Tim worked with Image Computer Systems, of Ferndown, Dorset, England and before that as a principal engineer with Plessey Telecommunications, in Poole, England.<br><br><BLOCKQUOTE><B><A HREF="http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/">Net Neutrality: This is serious</A></B><br><B>When I invented the Web, I didn't have to ask anyone's permission. Now, hundreds of millions of people are using it freely. I am worried that that is going end in the USA.</B><br><br>I blogged on net neutrality before, and so did a lot of other people. (see e.g. <A HREF="http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2006/06/neutralnet.html">Danny Weitzner</A>, <A HREF="http://savetheinternet.com/">SaveTheInternet.com</A>, etc.) Since then, some telecommunications companies spent a lot of money on public relations and TV ads, and the US House seems to have wavered from the path of preserving net neutrality. There has been some misinformation spread about. So here are some clarifications. (<A HREF="http://web.mit.edu/webcast/mit-berners-lee-net-neutrality-blogs-220k.ram">real video</A> Mpegs to come)<br><br>Net neutrality is this:<br><br>    <I>If I pay to connect to the Net with a certain quality of service, and you pay to connect with that or greater quality of service, then we can communicate at that level.</I><br><br>That's all. Its up to the ISPs to make sure they interoperate so that that happens.<br><br>Net Neutrality is NOT asking for the internet for free.<br><br>Net Neutrality is NOT saying that one shouldn't pay more money for high quality of service. We always have, and we always will.<br><br>There have been suggestions that we don't need legislation because we haven't had it. These are nonsense, because in fact we have had net neutrality in the past -- it is only recently that real explicit threats have occurred.<br><br>Control of information is hugely powerful. <B>In the US, the threat is that companies control what I can access for commercial reasons. (In China, control is by the government for political reasons.)</B> There is a very strong short-term incentive for a company to grab control of TV distribution over the Internet even though it is against the long-term interests of the industry.<br><br>Yes, regulation to keep the Internet open is regulation. And mostly, the Internet thrives on lack of regulation. But some basic values have to be preserved. For example, the market system depends on the rule that you can't photocopy money. <B>Democracy depends on freedom of speech. Freedom of connection, with any application, to any party, is the fundamental social basis of the Internet, and, now, the society based on it.<br><br>Let's see whether the United States is capable as acting according to its important values, or whether it is, as so many people are saying, run by the misguided short-term interested of large corporations.</B><br><br><B>I hope that Congress can protect net neutrality</B>, so I can continue to innovate in the internet space. I want to see the explosion of innovations happening out there on the Web, so diverse and so exciting, continue unabated.</BLOCKQUOTE><br>[emphasis mine]]]></description>
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