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Jonbo298

join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA

Free with a hitch...

You can get free VoIP but you deal with the possibility of dropped calls, the voice quality going up and down, etc...Whereas with a landline, 90%+ of the time these issues won't happen.

So telco's will always charge for a landline, until VoIP overcomes its problems and then telco's will have to drop the price of a landline quite alot.

Then again, taxes on a landline are pretty big as it is..


fAcEtIOUs
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said by Jonbo298:

You can get free VoIP but you deal with the possibility of dropped calls, the voice quality going up and down, etc...Whereas with a landline, 90%+ of the time these issues won't happen.

So telco's will always charge for a landline, until VoIP overcomes its problems and then telco's will have to drop the price of a landline quite alot.

Then again, taxes on a landline are pretty big as it is..
I agree. But a few corrections. Change that 90%+ number to 99.999%+. Landlines are dropping in price, especially long distance which can be gotten for about $.03/min including taxes and USF fees. And what the telcos lose in landlines they more than made up for in their wireless subsidiaries. Does Rupert Murdoch also think wireless will be free too.
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hurleyp

join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON

reply to Jonbo298
It will probably be "free" in the sense that email is "free". We would pay a flat monthly fee for our connection and some database entry with our phone number (or equivalent).

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rachelsfx

join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL

reply to Jonbo298

Not until AT&T is BANKRUPT!

May the Death Star be destroyed!


cdru
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Free with a hitch...

What telco do you use that gets five-9's and is dropping price? Before I canceled Verizon to go with ViaTalk, they had the same price that they did 5 years prior with regard to local phone service. And my line quality was acceptable, but nothing to write home to mom about.
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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

I have Verizon. With taxes and fees it's $50/mo free long distance anywhere in the US. New plan last year. I'm actually probably going to cancel because Comcast won't drop my rediculous $130 cable/HSI w/o surrendering my landline.



cdru
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said by Ahrenl:

I have Verizon. With taxes and fees it's $50/mo free long distance anywhere in the US. New plan last year. I'm actually probably going to cancel because Comcast won't drop my rediculous $130 cable/HSI w/o surrendering my landline.
Is that 50/month before or after taxes/fees? When I had Verizon still I was paying $35 for the local package with the usual bells and whistles. After taxes it was closer to $42 or $43 IIRC. Add on a few hours of long distance at $.05 and my bill was usually around $55 or so (plus DSL fees). Now I pay a little over $8/month for unlimited long distance and all the extras I had before plus more. Most of the time the call quality is as good if not better. Occasionally there is a slight echo on either end or some other problem. For $46 in savings per month, I more then pay for my 15/2 FiOS line.
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MooJohn

join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA

reply to Jonbo298
Think about it: internet traffic goes over the same lines as voice. We didn't (directly) pay anything for the internet traffic going over these backbones, yet we still agree to pay by the antiquated system of "how many miles apart are the two parties" when paying for telephone calls. How ridiculous!

Phone co's will say that voice calls are more expensive since they tie up a line for the entire duration of the conversation. Data transfer is switched, meaning more data can flow over the same number of lines. Great. Convert voice to data for the long-haul routes and treat everything as data, even using (*gasp*) traffic shaping!

If I can communicate with anyone anywhere in the world for roughly $45 a month no matter how much bandwidth I use, I think we deserve the same ability with the simple century-old telephone.

Just like cable companies fighting to keep you from choosing other local stations on your dish television, phone companies will fight till the end to preserve the cash cow they have now in local phone service.
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